I am seriously considering getting this cage. My mother has offered to buy it for me (well actually for Worm) because she's so in love with the new girls, and they are so active and curious that we feel they need more stimultion. I was wondering if anyone else has used this cage or uses it now. What do you think of it? I know I could get a Martins, and I am consiering it, but it looks like so much fun in those tubes.



Has anyone else had experience with this cage for rats? The rat cage calculator says it can hold up to 10 rats, so I know it's big enough for my four. Is that too big? Can a cage be too big? We were thinking of getting them a Wobust Wodent Wheel to go inside. None of my rats have ever liked wheels, but Worm has so much energy we figured she might like it. Is it bad to get the largest size wheel for her since she is still very small. Will she have trouble with it? Would the next size smaler be too small for my boys? I don't want them to get stuck or anything.

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm realizing that there are a lot of things I don't know, and I'd rather ask now and make an educated choice than wait until later and be sorry I bought something.

I'm going to look at it today and get a feel for how big the bar spacing is. It looks to me like it's an inch, but not a grid, just horizontal bars. I bet Worm could wiggle out of that for now, but not for long. I think Ruby would allready be too big to squeeze out.

Any advice is greatly appreciated, espeically if you have experience with those tubes and how easy they are to clean. It looks like they come appart in sections. Are they dishwasher safe? Do they hang onto pee smell?

Thank you to all who have any advice for me. My ratties and I appreciate it.

I would put more than 6 rats in that cages 10 is way to much for a cage like that.
It's easy to clean except for the tubes.

I have to also go with the Martin's cage...  DP is absolutely correct. 

I have a Martin cage, and wouldn't trade it for anything! 

it really is more fun accessorizing a cage.  Plus I love being able to change things around when I clean.  And its so fun watching the rattie girls discover all the new stuff in the cage.  Keeps them stimulated too  

if your mom is really into the tunnels and stuff there are alot of options out there.  PVC pipe, Dryer hose etc.  have her take a look at the pictures posted in the cage decorating thread (at top of this section) to get some ideas of how much fun accessoring can be.

Have you shown your mom all the decorated cages in the top threads?  Lots of great ideas in there!  And as others have said, it's more fun to change the decorations around, in my opinion. 

Also, I confused that the cage calculator would say that cage can hold 10 rats.  I have the Superpet cage that is twice the height of that one and my cage is designed to hold 10.44 rats according to the cage calculator.

Definately go with the Wobust Wodent Wheel. I started out with a Senior size and found it to be too small for the girls once they got the wheel going. I've never had a problem with little ones using the Wobust size. I think Worm will love it.

evertime i see those funnel cages i'm reminded of my old hamster's habitrail. i HATED that cage. the tubes had to be pried open lengthwise to clean them. the ridges on the inside designed for the hammie/ferret/rattie to grip while climbing are hard to clean, and the whole tube becomes a collection office for droppings. also, my hammie DIED while in the very middle of one tube (she died from a stroke or HA). i had to remove it from the cage then pull it apart. i'd be too scare if a rattie got sick or hurt and crawled into the middle of those tubes. my suggestion would be to get the ferret "playground" at the petstore. they come with clear, multixolored tubes, including stretchy ones, balls, and can be set up like a maze. or you could just go to home depot or loews and get the plumbing tubes that run about 33-99 cents apiece. they aren't clear though (or are they? anyone know where the clear ones are?). other concerns with the cage: that first ramp looks steep, too steep for an old rat; superpet ledges get dirty FAST (i have the deluxe critter home), and the ridges around the ledge requires daily, if not twice daily, cleanings; i have heard of the funnels breaking/faling off the main cage, even if properly installed. persistent chewers could chew away the flimsy clips that hold the tubes together and to the cage. i don't have a martin yet, but they seem to be of a higher quality. plus, cages designed for rats are so much better in the long run (long run as in if you decide to get babies in the future)

Once again, I HIGHLY recommend that you put the cage together using zip ties, instead of the c-clamps that come with the cage.  It's easier to take the cage apart if you need to later, or if you put it together 'wrong'. 

They probably have the multi colored ties at Home Depot or Lowe's ... most of the places 'should' carry them!

I got neon colored ones at Home depot.  Of course I swear the neon colored ones were like signs to my bRatty girls "chew me"

I have to disagree with just using zip ties. Place a few c-rings around. Those young girls are bound to chew on them and you'll find yourself putting the cage back together a lot. I have a lot of Martins and I always use the c-rings, that's just me though, I know a lot of people just use zip ties, and if you didn't get the professional c-ring closer, your doomed any ways!!!

I have and use one of the cages you were considering. I don't find it hard to clean and the tubes aren't even that bad, they just snap apart, the thing I don't like is the that shelves have grooves in them and the pee pools up in there...yuck!!!