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May 28, 2002, 09:36:43 PM »
Sorry, I had to vent somewhere...
As you know I work (manage) in a pet store.
A man came in today with a hamster in a ball and tried to give it to us. Now, I know that these animals need homes, but I disagree with becoming the pound and accepting every animal that is all of a sudden unwanted- my cages are full and my empty cages are reserved in case anything gets sick- not for unwanted animals. I have been very strict about this too.
Well he comes in trying to give us the hamster, and of course we asked if he was still under guarentee. (14 days) He said no, but that when he bought the hamster, the worker had told him that if he didn't want the hamster anymore we'd take it. (Which is B.S.- all my people know I refuse to be a pound) I told him that that if he had decided in those 14 days it was guarenteed, that we would have taken it back. It had been a few months, and we were not going to take it because he didn't want it. He got all mad and puffed his way out.
I was so mad! This is not the first, nor the last. But to say that someone would tell him during a sell "If you dont like it after the 14 days we'll take it back" Grr! Why would anyone say that? I mean this is not a trial service on like a piece of exercise equipment where you get 90 days and if you dont like it, send it back! Hello!
I really truely hate turning people away but I get 2-3 phone calls a day asking for us to take the animals that they bought on spurt moments and 2 months later decide they stink or that thier kids wont care for it... And I think a 14 day guarentee is pleantly of time to see if its gonna stink or if your kids will really take care of it. And you should know your kids anyways, and be willing the take over for what they dont do, or dont get anything at all! That would be 2-3 animals a day I would take back, provide housing for and feed. Just today i was asked to take a hamster, a fire belly toad and a duckling.
Why do people even buy animals if they know at the time of pruchase that they are going to bring them back in 2 months? Hello!
Ok, I'm done venting. Grr.
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I know exactly what you mean!I cant stand it either.My mom and I used to do pet rescue...it was horrible how people buy animals that they "HAVE to HAVE" then after the novelty of the new exciting period wares off and their friends arent impressed anymore,that pet becuases a pest,in the way and out of budget.I hate it also when they buy a dog/cat/ecyt,dont spay it,then it gets pregnant,,,OOPS i didnt know little Fluffy and that bad Spike dog next door would have babies if I left them unattended,here let me dump it on you! UGHHHHH!When will people learn?!
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My mom called here just last week wanting to know if we wanted this dwarf hammie some guy had. She worked with him & he didn't want it anymore because it kept biting his family members. So, why should THAT problem be passed to anyone else? He had the little thing about 4 months or less. I told my mom I'm not in the business of taking the castaway animals of irresponsible people, and if he couldn't make a commitment to this little beast & try to socialize it, that was HARDLY my problem.
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Ugh I know what you mean! I rarely have problems with the people I place animals to, since I talk to them first and pull up a contract... and I WILL take back OR assist in placing an animal I bred... BUT It never ceases to amaze me how many people who get (from other breeders or from petshops) rats, rabbits, mice, gerbils, hamsters, degus, chinchillas, any of various other rodent species, ferrets, fish, guinea pigs, even cats, email me or call me wanting me to take their pets because they dont want them anymore. Gets me even more when some of them get offended because I do not consider their dumping their pets on me a "wonderous gift" that i could turn aroudn and sell to make money on or use ina breeding program!!! The "best" ones are those that not only want to "dump" their pets but want me to PAY THEM money on top of it becuase they expect me to breed the animal and "profit" off the resulting offspring!!! Theres a woman who is practially stalking us to take her cat from her- We've given her a list of no-kill, cageless cat shelters in the area, even told her that we would foster her cat but only after it went thru a particular shelter we volunteer with (thus getting it a free vet exam, shots, spay and food/supplies for duration of the fostering) yet she refuses. Doesnt want to take the cat to a shelter. doesn't want to keep it. Doesn't understand why we do not want this cat dumped on us! I feel sad for the cat, but I have certain house rules for the safety of my animals, its not too much to ask the cat go to the shelter first for a free vet exam and be put in the "system" so that its food/vet bills are covered, Its not like abandoning the animal without knowing where it would go since I work for that shelter and said I'd foster the cat if it was brought in to the shelter. No she wants to put the cat directly into a house, no shelter! i told her to post a pet adoption ad- oh no, can't do that- she's too scared of placing the cat to someone she doesnt "know" (heck, she doesn't even know me. She got my number from a person who knew a person who adopted a rat from me and met one of pet cats)!
And then theres morons who leave a cage/tank/box with an animal in it on the door step of your house or a petshop! no care about when anyone will find the animal, if a wild animal will find the pet first, if the person who lives there or owns the store is even ABLE to take in or care for the animal!
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May 29, 2002, 12:37:56 AM »
I don't think I have the heart to deal with people like the man who came into your pet store. I have a hard enough time dealing with my boyfriend's ex-wife (a.k.a., the b*tch from beyond h*ll). My boyfriend and I have been going out for almost seven years and in that time NOT ONE of the pets adopted/bought by this woman is still around. These poor animals -- dogs, cats, birds, rats, horses, rabbits, ducks, hamsters -- have either died from starvation or disease, or they've simply been disposed of as soon as they become inconvenient. The toilet and the pound are handy receptacles for unwanted animals. One compelling example: the ex picks up two rats for her 9-year-old son. Over the next several months, she fails to monitor how her son is taking care of these rats much less to guide him in doing this properly. She consistently neglects to buy such necessaries as bedding ("Oh, just use newspaper") and food ("Oh, just find something from the fridge"). One day, the son comes home from school to find one of the rats split wide open in the abdomen. The other rat, of course, seems fine. The ex tells her son it was just worms. Yeah, right. Forced from prolonged neglect in inhumane conditions, one of these rats resorted to doing what he had to do just to stay alive. Needless to say, these poor things led an agonizing existence and at least one of their lives ended in a brutal, cannibalistic way. All of this because one irresponsible human being wants to be momentarily amused. For this and a number of other reasons, I absolutely refuse to go anywhere near this woman, to have anything to do with her, or to help her out in any way. She deserves the same treatment and neglect which she has inflicted on every single one of the animals she has taken in, and then some!
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May 29, 2002, 05:22:44 AM »
Some people just seem to feel no responsibility at all when it comes to animals. My daughter Jess' ex boyfriend was in the store I work at yesterday and told me his parents had just got a new puppy. I was SO angry. They had a puppy a year or so ago, it was the sweetest little thing, but they got rid of it because when it got excited it peed on their legs - it was a puppy for crying out loud!!! What did they expect it to do?
. I said to him "what are they going to do when THIS one pees on their legs?".
It's pathetic, some people just should not be pet owners.
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You know what upsets me even more? The stupid animal shelter in our town. If you adopt an animal from them and decide that you don't really want it or if it has a medical problem you dont want to treat, you can return it after 2-3 weeks and pick out a new one. When I was in there picking up a dog for my in-laws, a lady came in with the weimeraner she just adopted. "I'm sorry, but Roxi has heartworms, can I trade her in still?" OMG!!! I guess to me, the shelter should be teaching responsible pet ownership and teach people that when your pet has a problem, you get it treated (it would also help if they weren't so cheap and actually tested/gave shots/spayed/etc the animals they get). I know lots of vets that would give discounted heartworm treatments in this case, or the one I work for has even given FREE treatments when he felt it was necessary. All she had to do was look around and see what was available. In my world, the instant you bring a pet home, it is yours for the long haul. The puppy I adopted that I didn't think would be a problem is epileptic. Her vet bills, just since January, total well over $1000. Then we have her food and med bills on top of that (she takes 2 meds twicw a day). And I have never ever thought of getting rid of her despite the fact that it is hard work coming up with the money to care for her (my savings account is dwindling down with each visit) and it breaks my heart having to deal with it. But she is MY RESPONSIBILITY!
I am getting a new pet this Friday. An african fat-tailed gecko that was bought for the daughter, the daughter didn't care for it, was taken away, and the parents asked if I could take it. They don't have the time or will to care for it anymore, as they never planned on having him as their pet anyways. She did say that if I didn't want him, they'd keep him, but I decided that I could make room for the little guy.
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO STUPID WITH PETS!!!!!!!
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May 29, 2002, 06:26:33 AM »
All that and I forgot our zoo stories:
It is very rare that we are able to take in unwanted pets, but occasionally there are spots for them.
Mia, our boa, was found in the closet of a frat house over the summer with no food or water, the owner just left her there hoping she would still be alive come next fall. Our hedgehogs were both pets, but they were too stinky. Our Indian star tortoises were brought into the country illegally, given as gifts, and the people who recieved them asked us if they were allowed to keep them (they doubted it), we contacted fish and wildlife, they are now with us. A tarantula was kept under the bed of a soldier at our nearby military base in a butter container. We had a savannah moniter once name Phil. His owners apparently thought he could live in the city and turned him loose. He was found on one of our busy roads, badly burnt due to the hot summer asphalt. He lost many toes and most of his tail, and was severly neglected. We nursed him back to health and he lived out a long happy life.
All these animals are used in our programs. We highly stress which animals make good pets (our rats!) and which make very bad pets. We highly stress the importance of research. We handle our hedgehogs with gloves so kids will see them as a little bit less cuddly. We display nearly all our animals on bark or sticks, to show that they are not pets (although we all cuddle them behind the scenes!
). I'm sure there are more stories about our ed animals that I haven't heard or can't remember. Its just so sad!
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May 29, 2002, 07:05:26 AM »
Yeh, Luckily the guy didn't want his money back. He told us "The guy said that within 14 days I can get my money back, but after that I can still give it back" Not that I can sell dropped-off animals, becuase then I couldn't promise the guarentee correctly, because I don't know thier treatment beforehand.
On top of that the guy hadn't even brought the cage back! Well if you don't want the hamster then you don't want the cage either, or are you saving it in case a year from now you want to own a hamster for 2 months again? Of course, even if he had the cage I'd have no where to put it.
every animal that comes in would have to be advertised as "for free" because I can't offer a guarnetee. Now honetly, an average person would not pay $8 (plus the cage and equipment) if I had a free hamster advertised, including cage. The worst part- the $8 one you know is healthy, and has a guarentee. The free one could have a disease no one knows about and could die next week with no guarentee.
OHH and those people that leave a box of kittens in front of a store or shelter before they open...those people have no heart. What if the kittens were to escape from the box and no one knew about it? And especially what if a wild animal gets to them first, or the place dosent have facilities for them?
I could go on and on and on.... people should buy a license to own animals! An expensive one too!
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May 29, 2002, 09:59:40 AM »
*Sigh.*
Okay, look, I'm sorry but I just have to say it:
This is PRECISELY why retail stores should NOT be selling live animals.
'nuf said.
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May 29, 2002, 12:51:43 PM »
i think the problem is with most retail stores, they treat the animals as merchandise rather then living things. If stores would place animals *responsibly* (how we expect a responsible breeder or a shelter to do things) there wouldn't be such a problem. Most stores though won't do that.
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at my store we make sure people are willing to take care of things before they are sold....this isn't 100% of course, as we can't follow everyone home, but for the most part we have pretty responsible people coming in to start with. Other than the college students...if we feel they're not going to make good pet owners, we scare them off by telling them the truth about owning any pet...people will litterally come in and ask us what the easiest pet to care for is...I'm just like, well, a pet is a responsibility, if you're not willing to deal with it, then you're not ready for a pet. We have some very dedicated rattie owners that come in though
makes me happy...as far as taking animals back, we do it on occasion...it's hard not to. Some woman was going to let her anoles loose(mind you, I live in mass...not florida)...this was in the middle of the winter too. I told her they'd be better off having their heads chopped off, because at least that way they won't suffer...but that we'd take them if it's really gonna come to that..she said she bought them for her son and he didn't wanna care for them anymore...I of course gave her the responsibility speach, and she comes back with "well, it's a 10 year old boy, you know how it is"....I'm just like...um..YOU bought them for him...duh..anyhoo..yes, it drives me up the walls....
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I am relating... The pet store I worked at seemed to be the dumping ground for the entire town's unwanted pets. Among the most disheartening...
An 8-month old sheepdog that was tethered to our back door.
An iguana that was brought into the store and left on a shelf in a box.
2 lg Oscar fish and a Pleco in a 30gal tank half full of filthy, cloudy water left in front of our front door.
And the saddest... a kitten with a severed hind leg that was litterally COVERED with maggots. It took several baths over 4 days to get the maggots out of her coat. This one has a happy ending, though. We nicknamed her Trio, and the store manager was able to find a home for this kitten privately (we weren't allowed to sell her with the missing limb, although many ppl offered). She was taken to a vet to have her leg taken care of, and because she was so young, she gets around as if nothing was ever there. What a little inspiration!
On a personal note, my hubby and I are "fostering" a Belgian Shepherd that an aquaintance was going to dump at a pound. We took her knowing that ours was not the best home for her, but we are absolutely commited to finding her a GOOD home, not just "another" home. (Know anyone that wants a dog?
) But, you know what? If that good home doesn't come along, she's our dog, richer or poorer, better or worse. I think that more ppl should view their pet ownership that way.
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Quote from: Jodi on May 29, 2002, 09:59:40 AM
*Sigh.*
Okay, look, I'm sorry but I just have to say it:
This is PRECISELY why retail stores should NOT be selling live animals.
'nuf said.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
That way only people who really really wanted animals could get them, and not those for whom it is a passing fancy. People make me sick.
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I can't believe people even WANT to return their pets!!!!
No matter what happens, when I take an animal home, it's my baby. If it bites, it's my job to make it comfy, safe, and social. If it gets sick, it's my job to care for it.
Am I the only one who gets insta-attached?
I can't even *imagine* returning any of my babies!!! How can anyone look at their pets' cute little faces and take them back.........
((like my co-worker who took the daddy rat back))
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we had people dump dogs at the boarding kennel where i used to work. they'd make a kennel reservation and just never show up to pick the dog back up. we of course wouldn't have accurate contact information, and couldn't find them, or else the person would just flat out refuse to take the animal back.
there was a set of pitbulls (mama and daughter) that were nice dogs but the owner had trained them to be cat killers. the kennel manager sent them to the pound (she was upset about it, but they'd been there for months) but they ended up being saved at the last minute by a former kennel employee.
there was a gorgeous peach and white pit who was dumped. i wanted her so badly but i couldn't take her because of my lease. another one of the kennel staff took her.
there was a woman who dumped her golden retriever puppy because her boyfriend wanted her to get rid of it. she told our manager that if we didn't take the dog she was going to take it to the pound and have them put it down. there was nothing wrong with this dog at all!! no health problems, no behaviour problems, but the boyfriend wanted it put down. taking it to the pound was not enough. our manager wouldn't let her take the dog. one of the office staff adopted her.
i just don't understand.
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WELLLLLL! I was visiting a forum last night and I can't believe what I read while there!
This person I know from still yet ANOTHER forum (who claims to have been an English major yet uses TERRIBLE grammar) posts at the forum I visited last night, and she just HAD to have some dwarf hammies. Just HAD to. She had some Syrians, and was jealous because other people had dwarves & she didn't. She's always going on about how BROKE she and her boyfriend are all the time & how TINY their apartment is & it's just a big whinefest.
Anyway, her man got her a cage & 2 dwarf guys for Christmas. She loved them & found room for them & blah blah blah. Well, now guess what? She wants a KITTEN! So, guess what she's going to do with the dwarf hamsters? She's giving them away.
This person is supposedly an adult, not a child. Everyone's telling her how it's OK to give the hammies away since she's giving them to RELATIVES, rather than strangers, but the point is; she's got a short term thing going on here.
I totally blasted her and said what she was about to do is childish and irresponsible. The hilarious part? *I* am being blasted for telling her that she's making a poor choice! She told me, "My boyfriend said you're so distraught, YOU can have them!" I said, "Thanks but we've got 3 we intend to keep for the remainder of their lives, and besides, I'm not in the business of taking the castaway pets of other people. Enjoy the cat." Then I said, "What will you do with the cat when you decide to get a bird or something?"
I cannot fathom why it's OK to give pets away when someone wants something NEW, but it's NOT OK to blatantly state that she should COMMIT to the animals she already has! And the hilarious part is that ADULTS were the ones telling me to back off! ROFLMAO!
Sad. Truly sad.
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Yeah, it's an unfortunate fact that we're starting to live in a "disposable" society. It started with the little animals... hamster, gerbils, guinea pigs... progressed to dogs and cats, and not it's moving on to children and spouses.
I've always said that the way we (as a society) treat our animals, is eventually the way we'll treat our children. It's being proved out (unfortunately). Until people realize that taking something in as a pet is a lifetime commitment, and start to act as such, there is very little chance of in improvement in society. Cheerful, ain't I?
Ok, I'm out of rant mode now. It just frustrates me, and is one of the reason I never intend to have children. I don't want them to grow up in a disposable world.
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Ratstalker? Hon? Do me a big fav, okay? Post here or PM me the link to this other forum... *I* will soon be there with bells on to back you up wholeheartedly!!!!!!!!
Just lemme know where....
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Hi, Jody. I just PMed the info to you.
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On my way....
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Dumping pets is a huge problem. My gray tabby came from an unusual "dump". My mom went to the grocery store. It was warm that day so she had her window on the car rolled down about 4 to 5 inches. Well, someone comes along and get this:
dumps 2 kittens into my mom's car while she was away shopping, through the open crack in the window.
They were far too young and small to have gotten in there themselves. Mom comes home and says to everyone "I've got kittens in my car!" So me and mom fished 2 very frightened kittens out of the car. One was black and one was the gray tabby. We sheltered them and fed them. They where at least over the weened age. In the end we kept the tabby and gave the black cat to a friend of my grandmothers who wanted a cat. The black one lived a long healthy happy life with the lady and the tabby lived a long and healthy life with us. Unfortunatly the tabby "tibby" passed away recently due to a facial tumor that could not be removed by the vet. She was at least 13.
But I understand where all this comes from. I love my pets and they always stay with me till the end. I couldn't believe someone would "dump" kittens in a random car in the parking lot. It makes me very sad and angery to this day. But we did gain a wonderful cat, and so did my grandmother's friend.
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They DUMPED them into your mother's CAR WINDOW? OH. My. GOD!!!!!!!!!!!! Now THAT is some serious NERVE on the part of the "dumpee". I've heard it all now. GEEZ!
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Quote from: Mary on May 31, 2002, 01:28:13 PM
Yeah, it's an unfortunate fact that we're starting to live in a "disposable" society. It started with the little animals... hamster, gerbils, guinea pigs... progressed to dogs and cats, and not it's moving on to children and spouses.
I've always said that the way we (as a society) treat our animals, is eventually the way we'll treat our children. It's being proved out (unfortunately). Until people realize that taking something in as a pet is a lifetime commitment, and start to act as such, there is very little chance of in improvement in society. Cheerful, ain't I?
Ok, I'm out of rant mode now. It just frustrates me, and is one of the reason I never intend to have children. I don't want them to grow up in a disposable world.
ABSOLUTELY! I'm with you on this one. This is EXACTLY why I also decided not to have children. End of gene pool.
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Ensie and Mary, I admire and appreciate you both so much for your decisions not to have children! I have my two... but we made it a point to get me a tubal RIGHT after our second child was born. This poor planet has too many people as it is already. I applaud you both for your mature, caring, responsible, and generous decisions!!!
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May 31, 2002, 09:43:59 PM »
Quote from: Jodi on May 31, 2002, 08:10:31 PM
Ensie and Mary, I admire and appreciate you both so much for your decisions not to have children! I have my two... but we made it a point to get me a tubal RIGHT after our second child was born. This poor planet has too many people as it is already. I applaud you both for your mature, caring, responsible, and generous decisions!!!
Thanks!
But now you're making me feel guilty.
You see, I decided not to have kids for several reasons; overpopulation of the world by irresponsible morons is only one reason. I'm also very selfish because I'm not willing to go through pregnancy, labor, and breast feeding, much less sacrifice the next twenty-some-odd years of my life. Honestly, I know beyond a doubt that I am too selfish for that and that I would make a lousy mom. I greatly admire loving, nurturing moms, including my own mom. I just don't think I'm up to that task myself.
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May 31, 2002, 10:49:58 PM »
Sweetie, I admire the heck out of you... even moreso because you are the kind of strong, honest, reflective person who is willing to soul-search and recognize who you are and what your own strengths and weaknesses are! Three cheers for not succumbing to peer pressures, etc. and making the decision that is best for you!
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June 01, 2002, 12:25:03 AM »
Ensie and Mary, then, shouldn't
we
be the ones to have children?
We treat our animals with love and respect, and a dogs life is almost as long as childhood. (minus ~5 years)
I don't believe that we have an over population problem. Greed is the problem. This world can feed everyone on it. We have the technology along with the earth's natural resources for our support.
There are children being thrown away because of a terrible thing called apathy. A lot kids these days raise themselves, and then they grow up to work and leave their children alone at home to be ignored as well as raised by the media that doesn't support good family values. They have fundamental questions about sex and drugs and morals etc, with no one but the tv and their young inexperienced friends to turn to.
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