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« on: May 13, 2008, 11:41:39 AM »

I'm looking for info from the pro breeders here and anyone else up on their rat genetics.
We took in a hairless mom and her litter. We know that both possible dads are both standard coat. Is it possible the babies will be hairless or will they be rex or double rex? I always thought that for rex you need at least one rex parent, for double rex, two rex parents... but what about a hairless mom and standard dad? 7 out of the 10 babies have super curly whiskers. Mom was not well nourished so the babies all look like runts. When I compare with the other litters at 7 days old, we usually see fuzz and white by this time but not with these ones.

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2008, 12:17:00 PM »

Sorry...I don't know anything about breeding or genetics but those babies are just adorable!!!  Hyper
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 02:31:32 PM »

My last two litters out of Maisey had a mix of rex and double rex babies out of them.  Mommy was Rex.  Daddy was a bad double rex.  Meaning he had fur all over it was just very very short and thin.  The babies all were born normal and grew all of their fur.  Then at about 3 to 3 1/2 weeks some of them started to loose their fur in patches to the point that they were hairless.  Then at about 4-5 weeks they grew it back to be really thin like daddy.  I thought that would be the end of it.  But nope...They started to loose it again about a week later and regrow and loose....and so on.  As for your babies I have no idea...You will know for sure at about 3 to 3 1/2 weeks though!

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2008, 04:35:27 PM »

Are you sure mom is hairless? She might be a double rex that appears hairless, which can happen sometimes. That would explain rex babies.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2008, 05:10:44 PM »

I had a litter come to me a few years ago, and the dad had been a hairless (Double rex  Roll Eyes ) and the mom was standard fur and ears.
ALL the babies were rex.
So momma may be a double rex, and the babies may be rex.
If the daddy was a carrier for hairless, and she is a hairless, they could be hairless.
There's no way for them to be double rexes if the daddy was standard.
So if they come out curly, the moma is a double rex.
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2008, 06:20:45 PM »

You have rex and standard coated babies.

Your mother is not hairless, but a double rex.

A double rex bred to a standard coat will just act as a regular rex and you will have a mix of rex and standard coat pups.

 Are those black splotches on the two brown ones? Nice spots. Mink Merles. Looks like you have Black, one American Blue and a Beige as well.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2008, 08:06:22 PM »

Thanks guys!
If mom is a double rex, she sure is doing a good job of hiding it. lol She does not have any hair at all. None, completely bald.

Here she is:



Is hairless dominant? Can dad carry it? I'm really hoping for rex babies!
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2008, 08:13:06 PM »

They are SUPER cute!  I cannot wait to see what they turn out like.  You will keep us posted?? Wink
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2008, 08:38:24 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2008, 08:57:30 PM »

I just went and checked out Jani completely and she's got some hair! a wee bit of white hair on the front part of her hands. Sweet!!
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2008, 12:23:15 AM »

Wow she really does have no hair! I have 3 hairless rats that each have more hair than she does! She is really adorable and so are the babies! I see some dumbo ears in there! Keep us posted!
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2008, 05:48:25 AM »

You see dumbo ears?  Very strange as the possible fathers are all standard-eared.  It was a rescue situation and all rats were taken in.
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2008, 06:27:27 AM »

I find that weird too but there is one dumbo. How can that be? The possible dads are not dumbo, I suppose they could carry though.
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2008, 07:04:59 AM »

2 standard eared rats carrying dumbo each could cause this right?
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2008, 07:16:23 AM »

Jani the mom is dumbo.  Hyper
But going by what's being bred in Sudbury, I can't imagine those boys carrying but I guess they must. Worry This means someone here, a byb is trying to produce dumbos.
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2008, 09:12:59 AM »

Worry This means someone here, a byb is trying to produce dumbos.

Oh, no.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2008, 09:31:00 AM »

Wow, I really am blind!!  I keep looking at her in all her nakie glory and forgetting her ear placement 
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2008, 10:03:51 AM »

So, in the first picture, is the baby on the left a dumbo?  I'm not too good at knowing that when babies are so little.
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2008, 10:16:39 AM »

Ya, that's the only one different than the others.
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2008, 09:59:22 PM »

So, in the first picture, is the baby on the left a dumbo?  I'm not too good at knowing that when babies are so little.

Yes. That's the one I was referring to. You can see the ears are set lower on the head than the baby next to him. Look a the placement compared to the eyes. Daddy must have carried dumbo.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2008, 09:15:10 PM »

Here are the babies now at 10 days old. We've got some very pretty colours. Anyone care to guess what they might be? I'm thinking, minks, blacks, pearl merle, beige and blue.





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The girls:







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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2008, 09:20:18 PM »

WOW!  They are ADORABLE!!! Heart Heart Heart Heart
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2008, 09:20:45 PM »

 Shocked 2  What precious little bubs.  I especially like the little spotted one!!
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2008, 09:37:57 PM »

They're cuties, that's for sure!

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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2008, 09:51:56 PM »

Those are some beautiful babies you have there!! What cuties!! I want the boy in the middle! lol
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