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« on: May 05, 2002, 09:22:38 PM »

I was just wondering.. is Reggie Rat Food a good choice for my girls? Most commercial diets have heaps of fatty foods like sunflower seeds in them, but Reggie Rat Food has none. It also comes highly recommended from ratsauce.com. I was just wondering what you all thought of it. My kids won't even look at a lab block, although there seem to be some sort of little lab block-type chunks in Reggie Rat Food that probably contain the same stuff..?
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2002, 09:26:09 PM »

My boys wont touch it.  I bought two bags ... what a waste.  and it's not cheap!!!  best bet is to mix your own suebee's mix! or soemthing close to it.   Also, Reggie seems to be full of added food coloring or something because I've never seen food come in those colors! hahaha  It's a carnival of color!
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2002, 09:26:46 PM »

Ingredients
Ground wheat, toasted wheat, corn, flaked corn, whole oats, dehydrated alfalfa pellets, flaked field peas, flaked beans, dehulled soybean meal, straw pellets, oat middlings, soybean oil, wheat middlings, limestone, linseed oil, dicalcium phosphate, ferrous sulfate, choline chloride, vitamin E supplement, manganous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, vitamin A supplement, dicalcium pantothenate, FD&C red 40, nicotinic acid, menadione sodium bisulfite (source of vitamin K), biotin, FD&C yellow 6, FD&C yellow 5, vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, thiamin hydrochloride, selenium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), folic acid, FD&C blue 1, cobalt sulfate, cholecalciferol (source of vitamin D3), calcium iodate.

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Crude protein (min.) 12.5%, crude fat (min.) 3%, crude fiber (min.) 6%, crude fiber (max.) 8%, moisture (max.) 10%, calcium (min.) 0.3%, calcium (max.) 1%, phosphorus (min.) 0.3%, salt (min.) 0.4%, salt (max.) 0.9%, vitamin A 10,000 iu/kg.

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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2002, 09:28:59 PM »

My girls absolutely adore it. Is this a bad sign? LOL

It seems to be loads healthier than Kaytee food...
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2002, 09:49:49 PM »

As long as they don't turn funny colors! hehehe

I think anything would be healthier than Kaytee!!  But at $6.99 a bag I thought it was pricey (specially when it's still sitting in the tupperware container 4 months later!)  For about $10, the Suebee mix makes about 8 times the amount of food that comes in the one Reggie bag!  (It makes a HUGE amount, so we cut the recipe into 1/2 or 1/3)
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2002, 09:50:39 PM »

just about anything is loads healthier than kaytee food  Tongue

personally, i wouldn't buy it because it's so expensive. i feed my boys a variation of suebee's mix. it's so much cheaper and i can vary the ingredients a little bit too.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2002, 09:51:13 PM »

Once the Reggie runs out, I will give the Suebee mix a try. Sounds interesting.  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2002, 09:55:29 PM »

Would someone be so kind as to link me to the recipe for Suebee's mix?
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2002, 10:00:50 PM »

http://www.geocities.com/suebee277/rat/diet.html

My ratties did not like Reggie Rat food, but they love Suebee's recipe! Grin
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2002, 12:09:37 AM »

I got a rat from a pet store that eats Reggie's, and he won't eat anything else, not even strawberries.  I think the petstore people brainwashed him into thinking nothing else besides that is food.  It's not very expensive where I live, it's just that I have to drive all the way to yelm (a 1 hour drive) just to get the stuff!  Any ideas on how to do a transition to somthing besides reggies, perhaps subee's mix? I personally like Reggies food and highly reccomend it, but I don't want to make that hour drive again!
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2002, 12:13:23 AM »

I would just mix Reggie with the new food and then week by week, slowly phase Reggie out of the mix.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2002, 12:14:49 AM »


just about anything is loads healthier than kaytee food  Tongue


I feel so bad, I've been feeding my hamsters Kaytee blocks, as it's the only one my local pet store carries.  Thank goodness I've just ordered some Harlan Teklad blocks.  And my future ratties will never see the stuff!

About the Reggie food, isn't alfalfa indigestible by rats?  So it's just a useless filler.  And I don't know about rats, but my hamsters never touch the alfalfa pellets in their food mix.
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2002, 12:30:43 AM »


I would just mix Reggie with the new food and then week by week, slowly phase Reggie out of the mix.


That's what I was afraid of, now I got a long project ahead of me. (that means more hour drives.)
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2002, 12:32:49 AM »

The other alternative is to just get the new stuff and put it in his bowl. When he gets hungry enough, he'll eat it. But my previous suggestion is probably the best way to go.
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2002, 08:48:56 AM »

Again, thanks for the plug -- but remember that my diet is NOT endorsed by the club. Any questions about it should really be addressed to me directly via private message.

The Reggie doesn't look too bad -- not awesome, but loads better than Kaytee, that's for sure! It doesn't contain ethoxyquin, which is great! My only major concern is that the protein is VERY low -- too low, to be honest.
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2002, 01:44:53 PM »

I think you get a different Reggie rat food over the pond? The ingredients/analysis is a little different? what is good protein ratio for my rats? I have one old male rat and two youngsters at three months.

Ingredients:
Torrified Wheat, Wheat extrusions, Poultry Meat extrusions (13%) Whole Maize (12.5) Flaked Maize (10%) Whole Oats, Alfalfa Pellets (5%) Flaked Beans, Flaked Peas, Straw Pellets, Hipro Soya, Soya oil, Vitamins and Minerals
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Protein 14.7% Oil 5.5% Fibre 6.5% Ash 5.4% Moisture 11%
Vitamin A 10'000 iu/kg Vitamin D3 1000 iu/kg Vitamin E 50 mg/kg (alpha tocopherol acetate) Copper 10 mg/kg (cupric sulphate) contains EC permitted colourants.
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2002, 01:51:26 PM »

Isn't it amazing how the same food really isn't the same?

I was just noticing on a roll of Mentos candies that the US and Australian ingredients were different. Similar, but not quite the same. Odd. Yes, I was bored. Grin

The protein content of the UK version is much better... still a smidge low, but nor frighteningly so. Either way, both can be supplemented with protein-rich foods in small amounts (egg, fish, chicken, soy).
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2002, 02:03:54 PM »

You say "TOMATO" I say "TOMATO"?

So a little protein treat as well as reggie food okay donky. Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2002, 02:29:14 PM »

I use Reggie Rat here in Britain it is the best mix I have found..although it is expensive, I do add some protein treats though..but not too many!!
The girls LOVE it and eat all of it as soon as its put in the cage! Have to be careful not to feed too much Lips Sealed
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2002, 11:54:05 PM »

My rats have reggie right now.  They seem to like it.  They've had kaytee before, and another brand.....vitakraft??  something like that.  Now that I know about the protien I'll have to supplement it more.  They really seemed to like the vitakraft though.  One of my ratties got a bit pudgy, so I thought I'd try a different food.  Anyone have any experience with it?
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2002, 12:30:24 AM »

Personally i wouldn't touch that w/ a 20 foot pole!  LOL  Part of the reason is that I have over 20 rats and it would cost a fortune feeding that stuff!  

Personally I like my Nutro lite dog food with sunflower seeds, pasta, and fresh fruits and veggies every day.  Sometimes we give them rice and other meals like that.  Meat bones...  Things like that.  I try to cook one meal a day for the rat kids.

Really differnt things work for differnt people and differnt rats.  I don't like the idea of the unnatural brightly colored kibbles in any of my animals foods and refuse to feed them.  I try to stay as natrual as possible in all our foods (Charles and I as well as all the critters) .  I know it's hard to in this modern world but it's worth a shot atleast!

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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2002, 11:41:42 PM »

Personally, my 5 rats love dat stuff... hehe it seems like other ppl dont like dat stuff but im glad its available... it seems healthier & i think its great that theres food specially made for rats... Cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2002, 07:20:05 AM »

Isn't it amazing how the same food really isn't the same?

I reread what I wrote below later and boy, do I go off on one!
But you'll be impressed with the skilful way I pull it back to almost being on-topic!  
Cheesy

The difference between Vicks Sinex in the US and Vicks Sinex in the UK cost a Scottish skier an Olympic Bronze medal which would have been the first ever won by a Briton.
In the US, Sinex contains methamphetamine, which is a banned substance - it doesn't here in the UK.
The skier had a cold and innocently bought Sinex in Salt Lake City, never thinking it was different.

He had the medal stripped from him, been banned from competition for up to two years and his reputation is in tatters having been branded a cheat.
The irony is, that even the IOC admit that the drug he took is not 'performance-enhancing'.

You can see how similar the containers for US and UK Vicks Sinex here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/winterolympics2002/hi/english/photo_galleries/newsid_1885000/1885991.stm

Sorry this went way off topic, but it perhaps serves as a reminder that we need to be mindful when discussing products and meds that there may be regional differences.

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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2002, 08:12:01 AM »



The protein content of the UK version is much better... still a smidge low, but nor frighteningly so. Either way, both can be supplemented with protein-rich foods in small amounts (egg, fish, chicken, soy).


Ohhhhhhhh I don't understand. I thought the protein should be about 14%?  ???How can it be low if it's 14.7%? I deliberately give Burgess Supa Rat because it's only 14% (and approved by the NFRS) - not, of course, that they bother eating much of it! (and they probably  get too much protein in other food anyway).  Undecided
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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2002, 11:39:24 AM »

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Ohhhhhhhh I don't understand. I thought the protein should be about 14%?  ???How can it be low if it's 14.7%? I deliberately give Burgess Supa Rat because it's only 14% (and approved by the NFRS) - not, of course, that they bother eating much of it! (and they probably  get too much protein in other food anyway).  Undecided



There is still debating on what protein content is right for rats.  Some breeders I know with successful show rats feed up to a 27% protein content mix and others feed MUCH lower- 14-15%.....
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« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2002, 11:18:57 AM »

So, I am wondering:
what are the ideal rat percentages, for fat and protein and what-not?  How much vitamin X do they need (where X = A, B, E, etc)?  How much iron/calcium/etc?  Does anyone have this information, or think that they have this information?

I'm just wondering, because I see a lot of information about what we should/shouldn't feed our rats, but I don't see much information that explains why a certain diet is bad.  

I know that ethcocline (I know I missplelled that one) is bad for them, and I should avoid corn, but what I don't know is what they DO need in their diet.  

I like Suebee's mix, and have been considering trying that (especially since Ennoia likes most of the food that is listed), and I'm buying Harlan Teklad lab blocks, but I don't know how to make an informed decision, because I don't know what my ratties actually need.   Sad
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2002, 06:59:52 PM »

Corn is bad for them??
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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2002, 01:28:12 AM »


Corn is bad for them??

My understanding is that dried corn, or lab blocks with corn as their primary ingredient, are bad.  

Fresh corn appears to be okay.
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