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Author Topic: Look what they took out of my baby's bladder!! *pics*  (Read 3591 times)
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« on: May 09, 2002, 12:53:16 PM »

Poor Cous Cous, I can't believe she was carrying all of these around inside of her... She had her surgery today and all went well, but they found FIVE stones inside of her! Two large ones, two medium sized ones, and a small one. One of the vet techs came in to help them flush out the smallest one, and she thought that was the one stone they were after, then the vet directed her to the other four large stones set aside. Here are some photos I took:




They gave us these four to keep, but there was one other they sent away to be examined that was the same size as the largest one pictured here (the penny's there so you have an idea of how big they are).

Now I'm hoping we can find out what the stones were made of so we can change her diet and make sure she doesn't get these things back again.

Poor little Cous! Thanks again for everyone's help, and for urging me to get her into a vet ASAP! I'm so glad I did!
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2002, 12:58:28 PM »

OMG!  Shocked
Poor little rattie.

How is she, has she come round yet, did they let you take her home?

You know of course that she's going to demand LOTS of yoggies to fill the space those nasty stones took up!  Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2002, 12:59:26 PM »

WOW  Shocked
Your poor little rattie, better out than in!! That is just incredible!!
Hope she feels better!
Kiss Kisses to Cous COus
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2002, 01:04:51 PM »


How is she, has she come round yet, did they let you take her home?


She's doing fine, and she's home, she woke up very quickly and was giving the vets kisses and eating and drinking. Right now she's sleeping in her hammock, but she's trying to avoid sleeping on her belly for the time being.


You know of course that she's going to demand LOTS of yoggies to fill the space those nasty stones took up!  Smiley


Yes indeedy, she'll be getting spoiled for sure!
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2002, 01:09:54 PM »

Poor thing!  Embarrassed No wonder she was having issues!  I'm glad she's better now! Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2002, 01:11:04 PM »

wow, those were all in her bladder!  Shocked
I hope she will feel much better, I bet she'll thank you for bringing her to the vet.  I hope you two never have to ge through that again. Good to hear she's better.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2002, 01:14:24 PM »

Oh my gosh, how painful! Poor baby. Its good you noticed and got her in to surgery quick.

Get well soon, Cous Cous! Kiss
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2002, 01:20:56 PM »

*yarg*

Holy crap!
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2002, 01:37:40 PM »

When you get the results PLEASE share them with us as to what might have been the cause.  Seems to be rare since no one else has seen it in their ratties but I'd like to know what in the diet caused it for my own knowledge!

Glad to here she made it through with no problems  Smiley and man those stones must have hurt!

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2002, 01:44:35 PM »


When you get the results PLEASE share them with us as to what might have been the cause.  Seems to be rare since no one else has seen it in their ratties but I'd like to know what in the diet caused it for my own knowledge!


I was surprised that nobody else here has had this happen to their rat... my regular vet had never heard of it before (well, in rats anyway), and the vet who preformed the surgery had only ever removed stones in guinea pigs. I'm contemplating phoning the rat lady and asking how common this is.

I'll make sure to let you all know the results. It'll probably take at least a week before we find out.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2002, 02:39:52 PM »

Get Well Soon Cous Cous! (Is that her in the photo?)
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2002, 02:45:52 PM »

Good Grief!!  Poor little thing!  I don't know what size a ratties bladder is normally, but she must have felt like she was carrying rittens around or something, that is unbelievable that so many stones were there.

Glad to hear that she is doing so well!  And yes, please share the results of the tests  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2002, 02:53:27 PM »


Get Well Soon Cous Cous! (Is that her in the photo?)


Nope, that's Hobnob. ;) This is Cous Cous:




I don't know what size a ratties bladder is normally, but she must have felt like she was carrying rittens around or something, that is unbelievable that so many stones were there.


Actually the bladder is only about the size of a pea, so it was probably pretty stretched out with all of those stones.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2002, 02:54:22 PM »

Poor Cous Cous!  It's hard to believe 1 little rat could have all of those in her.  No wonder who couldn't pee.
I agree, please let us know the results.  I'm also curious.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2002, 02:56:00 PM »

Ooooouuuuuccccchhhh! Just looking at those makes my bladder hurt. She must have thought she had to go all the time. I'm glad you were able to catch that and I hope you can figure out what's causing it so she doesn't have to go through that again. Yikes! No wonder she doesn't want to sleep on her belly. Get better soon, CousCous!
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2002, 02:59:10 PM »

*face faults*

Holy hell!
Glad those are out of her.
And yes, please let us know what the results are!
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2002, 03:37:06 PM »

Whoa!  She's got to be feeling sooooooo much better!  My sister had kidney stones and I think they were about the same size!  I can't wait to find out what caused those in your Cous Cous.  I'm glad she's okay!

Is it okay if I send those photos of the stones to my vet?  I'm sure she'd be very interested to see them!
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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2002, 03:45:29 PM »


Is it okay if I send those photos of the stones to my vet?  I'm sure she'd be very interested to see them!


Sure. Smiley Don't forget to mention that there was one more in addition to these four that was the same size as the largest one.
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2002, 03:59:11 PM »



Is it okay if I send those photos of the stones to my vet?  I'm sure she'd be very interested to see them!


Sure. Smiley Don't forget to mention that there was one more in addition to these four that was the same size as the largest one.


Believe me...I won't forget any of the details on this!  Poor Cous Cous.  
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2002, 04:33:56 PM »

 Shocked Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor Cous Cous, What a good thing you caught it and got her to the vet!
I'm so glad she's ok. I loved her pic, she is absolutely gorgeous, what an adorable rattie.
Give her get well kisses for me.
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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2002, 05:16:37 PM »

I have to wonder how much longer she could have lived with those things in her... maybe I shouldn't wonder.
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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2002, 05:19:12 PM »

OWWEEE! Ouch! Gosh, poor sweety! I'm glad she got 'em removed!
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2002, 06:03:44 PM »

Im sure Ive missed it somewhere, but could you please tell me how old Cous Cous is and what her diet is?

I have never seen this in rats, though it is common in dogs. As a veterinary technician student, I am very, very interested in the facts surrounding this problem. I will also be interested to hear whether it is triple phosphate (struvite) stones or another type.

In dogs it can be diet related, genetic, or both.

I hope she continues to do well...sounds like you have found a GREAT rat vet.

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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2002, 06:21:28 PM »

It is SO good that you figured out what was hurting her and got a competent person to help her!  Those look TERRIBLE- I can't even imagine how bad it must have felt.  Hope her incision feels better soon, although it must feel great compared to those awful stones!
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2002, 06:30:49 PM »


Im sure Ive missed it somewhere, but could you please tell me how old Cous Cous is and what her diet is?


Cous Cous is about 11 months old and she eats Nutro dog food (the overweight dog formula) along with lots of fresh veggies, fruits, grains, cereals, etc. The only thing diet-related I can think of is possibly too much protein. I'd give all five of them a piece of cheese and Cous Cous would steal practically all of them for herself. I hope that's what these stones are made of because I can easily fix that.
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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2002, 12:36:27 AM »

!!!!!

I can't believe that was in such a little rattie!!!!  She's lucky to have someone who cares enough to take her to the vet.  All our rats are lucky to have such caring people!  I'm glad to hear she's doing good after her surgery.  
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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2002, 12:42:52 AM »

Holy crap!
Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoa!
OWWEEE! Ouch!
Holy hell!

   Yep, I'd say that about sums it up.  Grin Sorry. It's late. I was bored.
   Glad those are out of her, though...those are huge for a rat...
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« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2002, 12:54:50 AM »

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Cous Cous is about 11 months old and she eats Nutro dog food (the overweight dog formula) along with lots of fresh veggies, fruits, grains, cereals, etc. The only thing diet-related I can think of is possibly too much protein. I'd give all five of them a piece of cheese and Cous Cous would steal practically all of them for herself. I hope that's what these stones are made of because I can easily fix that.


Gosh I hope it isn't diet!!!

I feed all of my kids nutro lite, sunflower seeds, cooked rice, uncooked and cooked pasta and fresh fruits and veggies.....  I have never had a problem like this....  

I'm going to print these up for my 'mini libary' of rattie info LOL  Please keep us updayed on any new info you find on this!!!  I'm so glad she has such a great and caring Mommy like you!  She'll do just fine and come through with all that love Smiley

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« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2002, 04:46:13 AM »

Wow! Big clenching-legs-together moment.....

Poor CousCous. Hope she's feeling better now.  Kiss

Well done you for getting her sorted out so quickly!  Grin
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« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2002, 06:50:42 AM »

She seems to be feeling better now. I think it still hurts her to pee, but my mother had surgery on her bladder and she says it usually burns pretty bad for a few days afterward. But Cous Cous hasn't squeaked or had any of those strange stomach spasms she was having, and she's been her usual hyper self. She really wants back in the big cage with her pals, but they are just a little too interested in her incision right now.

Thought maybe I should reiterate, there was one more stone besides those four in the picture. The fifth stone was the same size as the biggest one in the photo.

Oh, and does anyone know why they're so red? Is that just blood that's making them that colour?
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« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2002, 08:55:44 AM »

Poor wee girlie!! Shocked  When you think of how itsy-bitsy their bladders must be - I can't believe she had all those in her!! She is lucky she has someone as caring as  you.

Aren't stones like that made of cholesterol? I know that human gall stones are, but I never heard of rat bladder stones.

How did you know there was something wrong with her? What were her symptoms?
She is totally adorable, by the way!
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« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2002, 09:01:01 AM »

It could be from too much calcium, if she really eats a lot of cheese.  Until the lab work comes back ,its really speculation though. With so many feeding a similar diet, I would suspect it isn't a nutro problem...  It is possible they were secondary to an undETEcted infection , as well.

Glad she is up and about! Poor baby!!
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