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« on: July 20, 2006, 09:15:29 PM »

Well im off to college in september. I have always wanted to get some pet rats, but my parents would never allow me to. I figured that since im going to college, they cant stop me. The only drawback is that the school dose not allow pets, other than tropical fish, to be kept. This is an excerpt from their site "Pets - For health and safety reasons no animals or pets of any kind, with the exception of tropical fish, are permitted in the residence halls. No other aquatic creatures or pets are permitted. All aquariums must be on a stand or base to reduce the danger of breakage." Thats one reason i think i want to get rats, they would be easy to keep secret becasue they dont bark like a dog, and dont need to go outside like a cat. i am thinking about getting a 10 gallon fish tank, and a tank top addition for a starter cage. I have heard that rats smell, i was just woundering how much? because i dont want to get kicked out of college for haveing pets. Also is there any difference in a hairless rat as opposed to a rat with hair? like do they smell more, act different, live longer? Any comments would be greatly appreciated

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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2006, 09:33:22 PM »

I'm not condoning you breaking the school's rules, but, my freshman yr at OSU, I had a cool RA who turned a blind eye to pets under the agreement that if caught, he knew nothing about it. That Said..an aquarium is a crappy home for a rat, rats need to be kept in pairs, and, in my opinion, girls don't smell as much as boys (I have both). Hairless, from what I hear, don't live as long as furred rats...but, I have 2 patchwork hairless who are 2 1/4 who have, thus far, outlived all of my furred rats with the exception of Raji, my heart rat who lived to be 3.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2006, 10:13:11 PM »

I agree with osutigeress. Big wire cage and two rats.
Have you thought about what happens if they find out? What would you do with the rats? Are you going to have a roommate? What are you going to do with the rats when you are on breaks if your parents don't allow rats?
Do you have enough time?
Do you have enough money (especially for vet care)?

I am not trying to talk you out of it but there are many things to consider before getting rats (pets in general).
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2006, 10:18:32 PM »

I got two boys at the beginning of the summer. My school's dorms don't allow them either (the contract specifically states nothing but "non-carnivorous fish"). But I'm living in the dorms this summer. Some schools may crack down on it hard. Others are probably pretty lax (my school's rules about pets are apparently about as strict as those about alcohol  Roll Eyes). A few weeks ago, a guy came by to fix my doorknob and caught me with the rats out. Once I'd opened the door for him, I couldn't go hide the rats, but when 'he saw them, he said it was all cool and he'd stumbled on to someone else with one recently.  Cool

If you have a roommate, make sure you wait until you're settled in and set up at your room and ask your roommate about it. My roommate probably wouldn't have had a problem, but I decided to wait until this summer because I'm getting an apartment next year and will have more space.

Rats are great college pets, in my opinion! Just have your desk set up so they can crawl around it while you're studying. My boys have been keeping me company this summer and I probably would have gone crazy alone without them.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2006, 10:19:54 PM »

Have you thought about what happens if they find out? What would you do with the rats?

That's exactly what I was going to ask. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2006, 10:30:52 PM »

not recommended at all

first, a 10g tank, even w/ a tank topper is too small for two rats (and you SHOULD get more than one, unless you adopt a rat w/ known issues w/ other rats). ventilations is poor w/ tanks and they stink up quicker

DO NOT break the school rules! yeah, it sounds unfair, and yeah lots of people get away w/ it, but many, many don't. if you get caught, you pets will be seized and sent to a shelter, where they may be put to sleep. not only will you probably get kicked out the dorms (and lose you housing deposit) but so may your roommate(s), regardless if he or they agreed to the pet  (and since you may be randomly assigned a roommate, this person may or may not like rats and may very likely snitch). I've heard of students being kicked out of school for bringing in pets.

it will be hard to clean the cage if you have to constantly sneak around. sneaking in supplies will be harder. and rats aren't completely silent (water bottles are noisy, and so is their chewing on lab blocks)

security is an issue. anyone may be able to just walk into your room and harm your pets, regardless if there's a lock on the door or not (roomies do leave doors open)

what will happen to the pets during Xmas and thanksgiving breaks? what about spring break? can't leave them there, and if you bring them home, you have to sneak the entire setup out of your room and sneak it back in (it sounds like your parents don't want rats in the house at all, so where will they go?)

and the first year of college is BUSY AND STRESSFUL! many kids drop out before November. you'll also be meeting new people and maybe even partying. you CAN'T just go off to someone else's place for the weekend and neglect your rats

I've been in your shoes. I'm 22 and when I started school, i had a dog and a hamster and was considering getting rats. i went to a school w/ an animal science major and pets were still prohibited on dorms (though you could bring your class beagle to some lectures). schools vary, and some people here have rats in school (i think mandycoot is one, tho i don't know what school she goes to), but if it's in the rule book, I'm going to be a partypooper and say don't do it, esp if you don't know the school's tolerance towards rule breaking. either get off campus housing or wait until you do to get rats
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2006, 10:48:53 PM »

twistedlittle-puppy brings up all the major points and I'm afraid many of those answers will not be good ones for the rats. Tropical fish are awesome though. Very little care and cichlids are just beautiful and full of personality. But they need larger tanks and there's the issue with taking them home on breaks too.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2006, 11:08:17 PM »

Honestly, if you go ahead and do it and sneak in rats... you will be constantly paranoid, and it sucks.

Pets (including rats) are not allowed in my building.  This never occurred to me, until a little while after I got the rats a bit news bulletin came out about it (someone else must have gotten caught).

Anyway, sneaking in with food and supplies in the middle of the night SUCKS. And I'm sure in a dorm people talk!  Once you get rats you will get so unbelievably attached to them, and if you had to give them up it would literally break your heart. 

And as someone else said rats take a TON of time and attention anyway.  Way more than you would ever think a rodent could possibly need. LOL  I'm going back to school in the fall and I know that I am going to feel like I am neglecting my babies...

So I would vote, stick with what is allowed. Smiley  And get a fish tank.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2006, 04:01:19 AM »

The deal with taking them home for vacation isnt a problem, i live at my dads house, and they dont want any rats in the house, but my mom wouldnt mind. I think the hardest thing to sneak in would be the actual cage.  but i dont know. I will definetly wait a little into school before i get one though.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2006, 07:01:25 AM »

It's not something to go into lightly and yes there are a lot of issues with it (I've been in similar circumstances) I wouldn't do it until you are absolutly sure and you should definitely wait until you've been at school for a little while and get used to things, you may find you don't even want to still get rats.  IF you do decide to get rats the best suggestion I can give you is that Amazon.com has some supplies etc and if you order from there it won't be second guessed.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2006, 07:10:26 AM »

I've read that some people will have an allergic reaction to rats?  What will you do if your roomie is allergic?  Unless he has prior experience with rats, he may not even know.  If he is allergic, where will you keep them? 
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2006, 07:49:26 AM »

If you college has a must live on campus for two years, in the third year move off campus into an apt. building with some friends, and then get rats.
I had friends with rats on campus, and the RA/maintenance guys were cool about it, but there were RA's/maintenance guys who were not cool about it.  Only reason why the RA was cool about it was because he was the boyfriend to one of the friends.

Once I moved off campus our apt became the "oh (bleep), they are doing an inspection, can we drop of x, x, and y?".
I would then "babysit" the menagerie until their owners came.  I didn't really approve of the animals on the campus, but at the same time I didn't want to see them put down at the shelter.  I was also guilty of that crime for 3 months.

The month I was moving off campus I broke my ankle into about a million pieces, the apt. I had lined up was now unlivable (3rd story, 8 miles away, standard trans).  My now husband owned a ferret and was moving down, well, we ended up moving into an oncampus apt, where you can live as couples - very cool might I add.  Every security guard and maintenance guy we dealt with knew about them since there were these double locked doors 1 step up where you had to keep your key in and turn, try doing that on crutches!  So on days my husband worked they would charter my butt around and let me into my apt.  But they also all knew that we were moving into an apt off campus at the end of the summer - my husband being there meant that they didn't have to help me as much.

I do know the local shelter ended up with a LOT of "college pets".  The last year I was there they started collecting all the feral cats and spaying/neutering -those all started out as dorm pets that kids just released when caught because they knew they would be put down at the shelter.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2006, 08:04:14 AM »

A friend of mine kept a hamster at college with her. She kept him under the bed in a very small plastic cage, since that was the only thing able to fit under the bed. Between her hectic class schedule, and poor animal skills, the cage did start to smell a bit. She just didn't have the time to take him out and thoroughly clean the cage often. During inspections, she would hide his cage in a stairwell, but they still lectured her about pets in the dorms every time. She got caught once or twice, and was warned that she would be kicked out of the dorms and fined if she continued.

Another friend kept her python in the dorms. She had a decent setup for her, and was very careful. Admin never found the snake. Everything was peachy. Her roomie left the door open, and someone came in and started poking around their room. When she got back from class, the python's tank was destroyed and the snake couldn't be found anywhere. After much searching, and no results, she decided to go to the previously cool RA about it. She got kicked out of the dorms, got fined, and her snake never was found.

A hamster or snake is low maintenance compared to a rat. Rats needs alot more attention and care. I'm not saying you couldn't take good care of the rats, everyone is different and several people have pulled it off just fine. Just that do you really want the added stress? Paranoid that someone will come in and see and [yukyuk] rat you out? Or that someone will come in and do something to the rats? I personally wouldn't want the added stress.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2006, 08:07:47 AM »

I waited until I lived in an apartment in college... I really don't recommend bringing them into a dorm where pets are not allowed. You've waited this long... a couple more years is not going to kill you.
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2006, 08:16:27 AM »

I too am guilty of having broken the college rules on pets for a couple of months.  I got my babies in March and had them until the end of the year in the beginning of May.  I made this decision over several months and talked to people in my dorm about it and how they felt about it.  Since it was my third year in the same house and everyone knew I was responsible, they were cool with it.  The RA did not know, of course, just to protect her.  I had a roommate, but lived in a split double that had a bathroom so I had a bathtub to wash the cage in and never had to bring it out of the room.  My roommate was also in love with my boys.  I was absolutely paranoid though and constantly thought people could see in my window.  
My house next year (last year of school) has some minor policies about pets, but I am still going to be extra, extra careful.  It may be technically allowed, but I am not going to flaunt it.  I would never want to put my babies at risk and I also have a place they can go if something comes up or I need to go away for the night.  I also have a backup plan if the head of house, who is in charge of rule changes, decides that it is not allowed, my babies have a place to live until I graduate.  I would not risk it in your situation.  Since you are just starting out college you do not know how things are and what may change in the next year or two.  When you make a committment to a pet it is not something that can be walked away from.  
I can't tell you what to do, but from experience it is not something I would recommend.  Two months was long enough for me.  There is too much stress in college starting out as it is.  I would never have gotten my rats a year ago or more.  I made the decision because I had finished all of my difficult courses and had the option of moving off campus.  The rats will also need out of cage time every day and dorm rooms are not large, especially as a freshman.  
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2006, 10:27:07 AM »

I will definetly wait a little into school before i get one though.

You need to adopt a PAIR. With as crazy as colege life will be, if you decide to not take everyone's advice then your rat is going to need company beause you won't be there 24/7. Unless a rescue will adopt to you a rat aggressive male or female. But knowing that you would be living ina dorm I doubt they would adopt to you for the safety of the animal.
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2006, 11:25:39 AM »

The deal with taking them home for vacation isnt a problem, i live at my dads house, and they dont want any rats in the house, but my mom wouldnt mind.

So if you get caught with the rats in your dorm, and you can no longer keep them in your dorm, your mom "wouldn't mind" taking care of them for you while you're away? 
I'd definitely check with mom first on that one. 
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2006, 05:57:13 PM »

I have majorly violated the no pets in the dorms rule. I would definitely wait until your sophomore year, though, so you know how things work better. I waited until my sophomore year, when I had a sweet, suite dorm with a separate living room, bedroom, and private bathroom. This really helped because I could have a large cage, but move it between rooms when people came over. I also covered it with a sheet, so it just looked like ghetto, college furniture, when I knew official people might come over. My college has carts to move in and out, so I just used those with, yet again, a sheet over the cage to move the cage around. I also called my rommate as soon as I got her info, and actually didn't get my rats until I knew she was okay with it.

I did get caught, though. I couldn't sleep with the rats in my bedroom, because of their wheel, so I always moved them out to the living room. Well, maintenance came over without calling me, which they're required to, one day. They actually left as soon as the saw my rats didn't do any maintenance (my boyfriend woke up and saw them). There was also no maintenance to be done to my knowledge. Well, they told my RA, and he actually forgot about it for a couple weeks, but then he was talking to me one day, and he suddenly remembered. He told me to bring them home next time I left, and I just never did.

That being said, I had several options you might not have that made it more realistic for me to keep them, without worrying about them ever going to a shelter: My college officially states they can't take your pets; they can only kick you out of the dorms, and you have 3 months notice. I loved my rats so intensely since I first brought them home, that I would've moved out and found an apartment, which I've done within a week before, so it would definitely be practical at 3 months. My parents would've also taken them in an emergency situation (but I don't think I would've lived through the separation). I also had very obvious, uh, mental health issues that several RAs and the hall manager were aware of. The hall manager bent some rules for me because of these issues, and I have no doubt I could've brought in official documentation saying how much the rats had improved my mental health, so he would've let it slide (which is not lie, they have).

So, I vote you wait until your sophomore year, and then carefully consider all your options and their possible repercussions.
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2006, 08:01:38 PM »

Not all colleges have the rule that they cannot remove an animal found in a dorm.  A friend of mine lost her ferret that way, as they came in while she was in class.  I honestly can't understand why the OP is in such a hurry!  I mean, why not wait the year or two you'll be in the dorms and get rats when you have your own apartment?  The rats deserve a safe, controlled environment.  Take the time until then to read up on rat care and save for vet bills.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2006, 10:35:00 PM »

Not all colleges have the rule that they cannot remove an animal found in a dorm
That's why I so recommend research into the school's rules. My statement applies to Ohio State University only.

I realize this is totally selfish, but I was incredibly lonely, and I felt an immediate need for company, so that might what others feel, too. Especially as an incoming freshman, I think it might ease fears of loneliness and adjustment issues. (I still think it's not the greatest idea as a freshman, though.)
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2006, 09:31:15 AM »

I don't think it is necessarily selfish - I know many people have snuck animals into their dorm rooms, including myself and other ark members!

My first year I only took in two rescued fish - but my sophomore year I had a pair of male gerbils, and by my junior year I had my cage of girlrats that I obtained over the summer (but I was completely off campus that year). By my sr year, we were running the rescue out of my on campus apartment, using other dorm rooms as foster/quarantine homes Smiley That sr year I also frequently brought my 100 lb doberman to school with me, so....

each school is a different situation and each person has to know what they can and cannot do. We had a plan set up for my gerbils in case of fire drils or anyone came in, and we tested it using all the other girls on the floor to make sure no one could find them/smell then.

if you have a backup plan and understand what would happen if they caught you with your pets, then for some people its a risk they take - will your friends or parents help you? do you have an off campus location the animals could be seen? is your RA a friend of yours who wont report you?

things just arent so cut and dry...

in this situation though, i really think waiting would be best. first, you have no idea what college is like and what you can and cannot do - you dont even know your roommate or your suitemates, etc. you dont know what it will be like, how much free time you will have, how much time you will spend out partying. you also need to understand what the correct care for these pets are (not in 10 gallon tanks!).
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2006, 07:47:03 PM »

Just be patient and wait. Get to college and settle in. You have the rest of your life to be a rat owner. there are so many changes both mental and physical when you start college. It would be unfair to you and the rat at this stage in your life.

OTOH, how in the world did you bring a 100lb doberkid into the dorms Kim? I have a big, beautiful red/rust dobergirl and she isnt even remotely a good sneak..lol she is just short of a 100lbs.
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2006, 10:59:38 PM »

I wouldn't try getting rats and hiding them. Not only are you going ot be stressed about college stuff, but you're going to be stressed over hiding your pets. What are you going to do if one gets loose? Or if someone nearby in another room turns out to be allergic and is having a bad reaction? Things will be a lot easier if you aren't breaking the rules. What if you have to take your rat to the vet and can't afford it or can't do the proper care?

Do you know what the bathroom set up is like? Are you going to have to sneak a cage down the hall? Even if you don't have a close neighbor that is allergic, someone who would use that bathroom may turn out to be allergic. Then you'd be causing possibly extreme discomfort to someone else. What are you doing to do if you got a pregnant female, thinking it'll smell less. You'll have several babies to take care of then.

Do you have a friend that has an apartment who would let you keep a couple rats at their place? A cool thing to do when you get your own place is to board pets for people and charge a fee lol Sounds like your area could use a place like that  Wink

If you do, ultimately, decide to get rats you should definately find out where you can take them if you get caught.. that is IF the school doesn't take them and send them to a shelter.......

I wouldn't recommend it..
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