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Mazuri or Oxbow Regal Rat
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My girls just turned 4 months old, and it's time to buy new food. Regal Rat had said not to feed until 4 months old, and Mazuri just recently got stocked where we shop.
I just want to know, in this boards opinion, which is the better of the two foods.
Please don't suggest something else, as these are the ones available where I am, and while I give lots of wholesome and nutricious snacks (Kale, peas, grapes, etc.), I prefer having an 'all in one' feed instead of a mix like Suebee's.
I know both Mazuri and Regal have been reccomended to others as good foods, but I'd like to know which one people like best.
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Re: Mazuri or Oxbow Regal Rat
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I've seen too many reports of the Oxbow being rejected by the rats. I'd feed Mazuri. I'll leave my personal opinion on Oxbow out of this.
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Re: Mazuri or Oxbow Regal Rat
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It really comes down to which one your rat prefers. I'd probably try Mazuri first, but it's a personal choice. If you do a search, you'll find many threads regarding both foods. There's probably one on this front page, if not, then on page 2.
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Re: Mazuri or Oxbow Regal Rat
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May 05, 2008, 11:27:29 AM »
Oxbow is the highest quality, but some rats lose weight on it so you should supplement with Suebee's or something else. Mazuri has some really terrible ingredients, I would never feed it.
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My crew love their Oxbow... I certainly wouldn't supplement with a suebees mix cause the rats will load up on the bad stuff first and leave the good quality pellets for last and my not even eat it at all and simply wait for more grain mix which is very lacking in nutrients.
In my personal opinion... and going by ingredients as well as protein and fat levels, Oxbow is far superior to Mazuri.
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I agree that Oxbow is superior in regard to nutrition. My old rats loved it to start and slowed down eating it later on. The reason being, I'm sure, that they crave variety. I now feed Suebee's grain mix and harlan teklad blocks, however when they run out, I think I'll be switching back to Oxbow.
In the small amount of research I've done, I've learned there's a possible link between a high amount of corn in the diet and cancer in rats. Because of this I hate feeding any food with "ground corn meal" or other corn ingredients, and most blocks have this as the first or second ingredient. Oxbow has no corn in it and does have soybean ingredients. Oxbow also has less fat and less protein than Mazuri.
I trust Oxbow. I feed my rabbit and guinea pig Oxbow pellets and hay, also. I've never had an issue with quality. I'd recommend it.
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May 05, 2008, 07:38:41 PM »
I recommend OXbow for rabbits and guinea pigs, but I am one of the ones that tell rat people to avoid it my experience was so bad.
I personally would go for the Mazuri hands down.
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Quote from: Dazydaizee on May 05, 2008, 05:09:03 PM
I agree that Oxbow is superior in regard to nutrition. My old rats loved it to start and slowed down eating it later on. The reason being, I'm sure, that they crave variety. I now feed Suebee's grain mix and harlan teklad blocks, however when they run out, I think I'll be switching back to Oxbow.
In the small amount of research I've done, I've learned there's a possible link between a high amount of corn in the diet and cancer in rats. Because of this I hate feeding any food with "ground corn meal" or other corn ingredients, and most blocks have this as the first or second ingredient. Oxbow has no corn in it and does have soybean ingredients. Oxbow also has less fat and less protein than Mazuri.
I trust Oxbow. I feed my rabbit and guinea pig Oxbow pellets and hay, also. I've never had an issue with quality. I'd recommend it.
I'm also one who does not trust anything with corn in it. It's nothing but a filler. I've also heard reports in the news about how bad corn can be for people as well.
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if corn can cause cancer in rats.
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My rats absolutely HATED Regal Rat and wouldn't eat it. So I bought Mazuri from Petsmart and have had better luck with that. I also include some of the Suebee mix too, and give them fresh vegetables, fruit, baby food, baby cereal and other healthy yummies for variety.
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I would try Regal Rat over Mazuri.
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I tried Oxbow. My rats hated it. Absolutely refused to touch the stuff. When I initially bought it, they ate it. But a week or so after that...they wouldn't touch the stuff. I switched to Mazuri, and that's what they've been on for a while now.
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This is when I get confused. If they hate it that much to totally refuse it, why does it take a week for them to stop eating it?
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Quote from: Sunakire on May 06, 2008, 10:12:57 PM
This is when I get confused. If they hate it that much to totally refuse it, why does it take a week for them to stop eating it?
Yeah. That confused me too.
Like they ate it, and I was like "Yay", and then they stopped eating it and refused to touch the stuff.
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There must be a lot of rats out there that like it though, or learn to like it, otherwise they would surely pull it off the market. Supply and demand.
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Before we jump up and down on the corn issue.
Soy itself isn't the best either. There is enough evidence out there that it may cause cancer also.
So, no, no food is perfect. If your rats eat the food and do well on it, feed the lab block of your choice.
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Quote from: Sunakire on May 06, 2008, 10:37:22 PM
There must be a lot of rats out there that like it though, or learn to like it, otherwise they would surely pull it off the market. Supply and demand.
Actually someone posted on here in the past that the company is aware of the problems and is looking at reformulating it??
My rats thought it was candy at first.... then after a couple of months it was a disaster they had lost weight and were very unhealthy.
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Actually someone posted on here in the past that the company is aware of the problems and is looking at reformulating it??
It's news to me.
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Quote from: ScoutGotBig on May 07, 2008, 07:28:48 AM
Before we jump up and down on the corn issue.
Soy itself isn't the best either. There is enough evidence out there that it may cause cancer also.
So, no, no food is perfect. If your rats eat the food and do well on it, feed the lab block of your choice.
Well, if you look at organic dog foods like Karma, which contain no corn, wheat, or soy, then yes, you cna actually call that a perfect rat food. I personally wouldn't feed my rats mazuri or oxbow. Any lab block is crap in my eyes
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But that dog food isn't a complete diet for ratties is it?
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Quote from: rodent_girl_1985 on May 07, 2008, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: ScoutGotBig on May 07, 2008, 07:28:48 AM
Before we jump up and down on the corn issue.
Soy itself isn't the best either. There is enough evidence out there that it may cause cancer also.
So, no, no food is perfect. If your rats eat the food and do well on it, feed the lab block of your choice.
Well, if you look at organic dog foods like Karma, which contain no corn, wheat, or soy, then yes, you cna actually call that a perfect rat food. I personally wouldn't feed my rats mazuri or oxbow. Any lab block is crap in my eyes
Well, dog food isn't a complete diet either. So, it's not perfect.
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Pet food can be a scary thing.. especially with meat ingredients. The downer cows that are unfit for human consumption end up in most pet food, along with scraps. I was talking to someone today who visited their friend's farm a few years back and saw a dead cow out in the field in 100 degree heat. She asked hours later what they planned to do with it. They said they sell them to the pet food companies and there would be a truck to pick it up later that day or the next.. at this point there were flies all over the thing and who knows what killed it in the first place. The rationalization behind it was that the pet food meats are cooked at such high temperatures, it's virtually supposed to kill anything that may be harmful.. but does that make me feel comfortable feeding it to my pet? No.
It seems with food (pet and human) it's a matter of picking the seemingly least harmful (which is ridiculous).
However as far as rats eating Oxbow for a while then not touching it, I think part of that is that they crave variety. They get bored with the same old thing. And I've noticed this with EVERY block or dog food I've tried. Also, I think many people think their rats aren't eating enough if they slow down on blocks, but the fact is they are 1lb animals that don't require tons of food a day and when they are eating such a concentrated, balanced diet, they shouldn't NEED to eat a lot daily. MOST rats, especially males, are overweight. They overeat. The most fit male rat I've ever seen eats exclusively Oxbow. He's also healthy at 3 or 4 years of age. I don't agree with feeding just one thing because I feel it does a lot mentally for a rat to forage and have a variety, but the fact is they tend to go more for the junky things, just like people. They don't always WANT to eat what's best for them...
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Quote from: Dazydaizee on May 07, 2008, 08:34:08 PM
However as far as rats eating Oxbow for a while then not touching it, I think part of that is that they crave variety. They get bored with the same old thing. And I've noticed this with EVERY block or dog food I've tried.
My rats have been eating Harlan now for.... about a year, and they eat it with the same gusto they began with. They get 95 -97% their staple block, they do not get a mix of any kind, just occassional table scraps. So I dunno, but I just don't think that is the reason they stopped eating the Oxbow and lost an unhealthy amount of weight.
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Quote from: rodent_girl_1985 on May 07, 2008, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: ScoutGotBig on May 07, 2008, 07:28:48 AM
Before we jump up and down on the corn issue.
Soy itself isn't the best either. There is enough evidence out there that it may cause cancer also.
So, no, no food is perfect. If your rats eat the food and do well on it, feed the lab block of your choice.
Well, if you look at organic dog foods like Karma, which contain no corn, wheat, or soy, then yes, you cna actually call that a perfect rat food. I personally wouldn't feed my rats mazuri or oxbow. Any lab block is crap in my eyes
Well, dog food isn't a complete diet either. So, it's not perfect.
well i didn't say it was a complete diet. I use this dog food in a mix.
I don't feed my rats anything I myself wouldn't eat. I loot at the ingredients in lab blocks and any food formulated for rats and say pretty much yuck, I would never eat that. I look at the ingredients for foods like Karma and Timberwolf, and it's all stuff I could actually eat if I wanted to without barfing. And I've actually been tempted with Timberwolf because it smells really good. I want my babies to eat the best and healthiest diet, something they'll enjoy.
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Quote from: Lise on May 07, 2008, 09:55:03 PM
Quote from: Dazydaizee on May 07, 2008, 08:34:08 PM
However as far as rats eating Oxbow for a while then not touching it, I think part of that is that they crave variety. They get bored with the same old thing. And I've noticed this with EVERY block or dog food I've tried.
My rats have been eating Harlan now for.... about a year, and they eat it with the same gusto they began with. They get 95 -97% their staple block, they do not get a mix of any kind, just occassional table scraps. So I dunno, but I just don't think that is the reason they stopped eating the Oxbow and lost an unhealthy amount of weight.
I have harlan now. My rats thought it was great when they first saw it, but now eat very little of it if it's all that's left in the cage... And that's the exact same be