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« on: August 29, 2005, 10:25:39 PM »
:help:My rat cage is 18 in High,11 in wide, and 8 in long.It has shelves/stories. Would that cage be big enough for 2 rats? Huh
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2005, 10:35:46 PM »
Also the floor and stuff is wire Embarrassed. SHould I put like rags over it then wash the rags every week or so Huh?The shelfs are wire too. help me please! Grin
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2005, 10:45:22 PM »
according to the cage calculator(http://www.kristinewickstrom.homestead.com/files/PanelApplet.html), that cage is not even big enough for half of one rat. Whether or not you need to cover the wire on the floor depends on the spacing/kind. If you did cover it with fabric, you would need to clean it more than once a week, most likely as it tends to get gross really quickly. That said, the cage really needs to be upgraded anyway.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2005, 11:24:05 AM »
No, that cage is not big enough for one rat, let alone two.  It's more sized for a hamster or a couple of gerbils.

On average, rats need about 2 cubic feet of space per rat - although that can vary depending on how many levels, size of the rats, etc.  That's 3,456 cubic inches - yours, at 18x11x8, is only 1584 inches.

A popular site to get cages is http://www.martinscages.com - The R-670 is generally recommended as the smallest for two rats, although two smallish girls would probably be ok in a 660. They also sell tank toppers, if you have an aquarium you'd like to turn into a cage.  (Keeping rats just in aquariums isn't recommended - they have sensitive lungs, the lack of ventilation can cause problems.)  You can also find cages at pet stores if you know what size to look for, although they're rarely cheaper than Martin's. Ebay is another good place to look for used cages, or the Pack Rat Swap Meet here.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2005, 05:28:35 PM »
I just went to that martins cages then to that cage sizeing thing and well The Rat Highrise  and  The Rat Carriage House  can not even hold 2 rats. I have another cage. I will probably  add on (dont worry I can) without braking the other cage or my current cage. catcha later.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2005, 05:31:09 PM »
I have just added on the measure ments and Have found out that with the cage addition It is big enough for  3 rats. thanks for the site. tell ya'll what happens later
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2005, 05:41:53 PM »
My cage looks like The Rat Highrise  at  http://www.martinscages.com/products/cages/rat/
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2005, 06:03:41 PM »
I have 2 balconies,3 stories on my cage
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2005, 06:16:15 PM »
it is 30.5 hiegh 23 wide 20 wide (this is in inches) is it big enough for 2  Huh ? this site http://www.kristinewickstrom.homestead.com/files/PanelApplet.html said it is bidg enough for 4 but I want to be sure.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2005, 06:28:27 PM »
Yep, that's fine.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2005, 06:33:08 PM »
thank-you
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2005, 04:42:35 PM »
You're right, some of the cages Martin's sells aren't truly big enough for rats; notice that most of those ones have cage #s starting with HR instead of R - they're really hamster cages that they've listed on the rat page as well.  Martin's is a great company, but they're there to make money, not to make sure people buy the right cage size for their animal...

The new cage, with the add-on sounds great for two rats!
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2005, 04:30:30 PM »
Thanks for the help I will post if the cage attachment works out ! g2g I am making a hide out (out of tissue box) for the new cage and new rat. bye!
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2005, 11:22:42 AM »
WEll I got a different cage. it can fit 2 rats and the new rat (i got it a long time ago) is treated like the other ones baby. Later
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2005, 05:39:57 PM »
Good luck with the cage! I find that the best martins cages for rats are in the ferret section, but maybe its just personal preference, lol. I own a couple of the f-435's and they are so easy to put together.
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2005, 07:44:51 PM »
I too love the Martins F435, but with the 1" x 1" bar spacing, they're not appropriate until rats are at least 3 - 4 months old.
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2005, 08:45:16 PM »
These are more cage calculators, there's one that also works on the floor space, not just the volume.

http://health.ratzrus.co.uk/cagecalc/index.htm
http://www.fancy-rats.co.uk/information/habitat/cagecalculator/
http://www.rattycorner.com/odds/calc.shtml
http://www.rmca.org/Articles/cagesize.htm
http://www.ratclub.org/cgi-bin/cage3.cgi
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2006, 02:26:05 AM »
Hmm, maybe I had large baby rats, Dearpie, but my two month old rats couldn't fit through the bars at all when I put them in the 435.
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2006, 06:37:23 AM »
Quote from: Rattie_Spoiler on December 23, 2005, 11:22:42 AM
WEll I got a different cage. it can fit 2 rats and the new rat (i got it a long time ago) is treated like the other ones baby. Later

So you have 3 rats..., so the cage need to be big enough for three rats not two.

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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2006, 07:54:48 PM »
no, she had one rat, and the new rat she got ages ago (this is an old topic) is the second. Her sentance should read "Well I got a different cage that can fit 2 rats! I got a new rat a while ago, and she is treated like the other ones baby."
(not trying too put words in her mouth, just that's how I've read it, though of course I may be wrong!)

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