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Adoption Center / Re: Is a home visit too thorough?
« Last post by BigBen on July 19, 2017, 02:14:24 PM »
I know from shows on Animal Planet that especially for some breeds of dog a home interview is essential, so if that's where they're coming from, it does make a bit more sense.  But still.  Sheesh!

ETA:  Kind of makes me wonder if they know how to take care of rats, actually . . . .
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Adoption Center / Re: Is a home visit too thorough?
« Last post by Michael C on July 18, 2017, 10:20:53 PM »
Thanks, BigBen =)

I just don't think they have any experience with small animals. They were applying their cat/dog application process to the adoption of rats (the application had required questions about the size of my backyard and whether or not it was fenced).

I was expecting a fairly in-depth application (it was) but I was shocked that I wasn't asked a single question about keeping rats. I was rejected before they asked me a single question. They require a home inspection for all adoptions, apparently, no exceptions.

They were extremely rigid in their process outright dismissive of me when I voiced discomfort over some of the aspects that I felt to be overly intrusive so I probably won't be reaching out to them to help them see how rat rescues operate.

In my last communication with them, I expressed my concern that they actually may be acting as a barrier to their rats potential futures rather than as a conduit for proper care. I'm guessing it fell on deaf ears. Oh well. I truly hope they're able to find good homes for Moe and the other ladies in their care.

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Adoption Center / Re: Is a home visit too thorough?
« Last post by BigBen on July 18, 2017, 08:49:59 PM »
I've adopted many rats from MRR and they have yet to do a home inspection, although they reserve the right to do so.  But I did get pretty thoroughly quizzed, in a friendly way, about my preparations for my first rats.  It was much more casual after that, partly I think because some of the people were checking GM regularly, and I've been pretty active here right from the beginning.

I think someone at the rescue misunderstood some advice they got.  The quizzing MRR does is aimed at rectifying any misunderstandings you might have, not rejecting you as an adopter.  Send them around to me, and I'll  set 'em straight!

P.S.--You might try e-mailing them a copy of the  adopter's questionnaire from the MRR Web site, to show them how to go about it.
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Adoption Center / Re: Is a home visit too thorough?
« Last post by Michael C on July 18, 2017, 12:10:23 AM »
*Update*

Upon getting home from work, in an effort to assuage any concerns they may have, I spent a half hour composing an email detailing how I care for my rats and included images of my cage and play area. I repeated my reservations about allowing a stranger into my home for an inspection.

I received a reply encouraging me to reapply if I ever become comfortable with their adoption process.

Oh well. I hope they find homes for the rats.

...thanks purple rat. Oliver Reynolds started out a total pill. He would whine and squeak anytime anything came near him. It got so bad at times that it appeared that the other boys were walking around on eggshells with him. He turned into such a sweet and affectionate little man, however. He was such a cuddler and dear friend to his cagemate, Peter Martin.  Now Peter Martin has no choice but to snuggle with the ever-annoying Samuel Hollingsworth. Half the time I swear I can see Peter Martin's eyes rolling.
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Adoption Center / Re: Is a home visit too thorough?
« Last post by purple rat on July 17, 2017, 09:54:22 PM »
+1 to what Erbusbee says. 
I agree that under these circumstances it's too much to ask.  I've adopted from Mainely Rat Rescue, which is a very reputable and thorough organization, and they didn't require a home visit or request overly invasive information.
Sorry for your loss of Oliver Reynolds
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Adoption Center / Re: Is a home visit too thorough?
« Last post by erbusbee on July 17, 2017, 06:40:44 PM »
I am all about supporting rescues, within reason.  When they make it so impossible that it's easier to get a rat in need off Craigslist or the local Humane Society, they are shooting themselves in the foot.  I've done 3 page applications before, which was tedious but within the realm of reason.  None asked for my partner's personal info.  That and a home visit would be too much for me.  There are plenty of other animals in need.
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Rat Care Corner / Re: Rat Life Expectancy Survey
« Last post by erbusbee on July 17, 2017, 06:36:21 PM »
Greyble, neutered male from a Craigslist oops litter, 20 months, chronic respiratory issues.
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Adoption Center / Is a home visit too thorough?
« Last post by Michael C on July 17, 2017, 04:09:42 PM »
I lost Oliver Reynolds a few weeks ago so I currently only have two boys in a big cage.

I recently found, through Petfinder, an adorable young boy in a town about 60 miles outside of the city. I went to the rescue organization's website to fill out the adoption application. This would be my first rescue experience but I've looked at similar applications in the past so I was prepared for the depth and breath of the questions. It's obvious that this organization primarily deals with dogs and cats because many of the *required* questions were about whether or not my yard is fenced and if my current pets are up to date on their vaccinations. The application also required things like my place of employment, the name and number of my employer, multiple references, number and type of pets currently in the home, etc. I listed my current rats and my roommate's cat on the application.

Some of the required information felt a little more invasive, like they required the name, birth date, and cell number for any other adults living in the home. Despite feeling a little uncomfortable giving out some of this information, I understand the purpose of being careful about who they place an animal with. I answered every question asked.

The application also required me to authorize my vet's office to release vet care related information to them. I did so.

I received an email a few days later letting me know that they contacted my vet. They were wondering why my vet didn't have any records for the cat listed on the application. I explained that it wasn't my cat and it was never even allowed in the same room with my rats. They told me that my roommate would have to authorize his vet to release info to them about his cat's history. I asked my roommate if he would be comfortable doing so. He expressed his reservations about the invasion of his privacy. I relayed this to the organization and they responded with "Sorry to hear he is feeling that way. Just let me know if you choose to proceed." My roommate ended up allowing the release of information and then I got another email from this organization. Now they're trying to schedule a time for a volunteer to come into my house to see if it's suitable.

At this point, I haven't even been asked a single question about how I actually care for my pets.

I informed them that I would gladly answer any questions they may have and would even provide them with pictures of my rats' housing and play area. I have not heard back from them yet but, basically, I'm wondering if I'm in the wrong for drawing the line at a home visit. I'm willing to give them all sorts of very personal information and let them see my vet care records and put 120 miles on my car to drive to a small town to pay $25 for an abandoned rat in need.

Is requiring a home visit too thorough for a rescue or am I being ridiculous?
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Pocket Pets Care Corner / Re: Will vanilla hurt a mouse?
« Last post by notsaying on July 17, 2017, 12:42:23 AM »
Thank you so much Kitsch Slapped! I'll try this out. I really don't want to lose him, so fingers crossed!
I'll also make sure to keep an eye on him to see if he is still drinking water.
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Rat Care Corner / Re: Weird Round Bald Spot
« Last post by MinervaThonosi on July 16, 2017, 07:27:31 PM »
Does he live with other rats?  Could be one of his friends is barbering him.

Nope he's by himself.
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