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Pack Rat Swap Meet - Classifieds / Looking for Critter Nation add on or DCN - Ohio
« Last post by TGQ on Yesterday at 11:34:46 AM »
Looking to upgrade my SCN to a double. Located near Cleveland
Pack Rat Swap Meet - Classifieds / CN For Sale Plus Extras - Nebraska
« Last post by OldsGal on Yesterday at 09:27:06 AM »
I have a used Double Critter Nation for sale.  It has custom metal pans in place of the plastic trays.  Asking $150.00.  The cage is assembled and I will not take it apart so you will need to bring a big truck to pick it up. 

I also have a large tote full of misc. supplies including several waffle block houses, several large size igloos, food dishes, water bottles, plus who knows what else is in there as I haven't looked through it in a awhile.  You can have that for $40.00. 

This is all located in Nebraska between Lincoln and Omaha.  If interested email me at as I am never on this forum anymore so I won't read any replies or PMs. 

I can get pictures upon request.
Rat Tails & Mug Shots / Re: Boy, did Neal say the wrong thing!
« Last post by Been to the Mountaintop on November 16, 2017, 08:16:03 PM »
BigBen's right. Before we knew we had ADHD, autism and other challenges in the mix as well as developmental delays, we tried Mandarin lessons. Great friend, great teacher, epic fail. But you had to be there. The inquirer also said, "You're so lucky! They make great scholars and always get into the best schools!" I can't imagine making that kind of assumption, even if positive. Can you imagine telling a black mother, "You're so lucky! They make such great [contraltos, rap singers, football stars, whatever stereotype.] She also asked, "How much did she cost?" Athough when I asked if she were considering adoption and concerned about the fee breakdown, she said, "No--just curious." So while I usually LOVED (probably too much) being an ambassador for international adoption, when we got to the language question Amy had already tried to answer for herself "Me Amy" and "Me amost two" so I let my inner snark out a little and said, "I don't know. We'll have to wait and see. Maybe Serbo-Croat." At that point the woman walked away looking bewildered and I, sad to say, was glad. 
Adoption Center / Re: Looking to a adopt two female babies! Mass or NH
« Last post by Been to the Mountaintop on November 16, 2017, 08:05:54 PM »
You are welcome. Fostering is one of the greatest needs and bittersweet but very rewarding. You get to fill tiny naked (or old and furry) bellies full of great nutrition, shower them with love, and prepare them to be able to love and trust in their forever homes.

Just in case it was unclear, if you see a litter of 8 on a site you don't have to adopt them all--we want at least two together and sometimes there is a deeply bonded trio that has been through hell and back and they need to stay together. But when you apply, tell them how many you want and believe me, we can find two or however many with your names on them. :-)
Rat Care Corner / Re: Annoying vet experience
« Last post by purple rat on November 16, 2017, 07:27:11 PM »
Michael: I think it's a good idea to let the owner know what happened and it's reasonable to ask for a free exam. Hopefully the owner will be cooperative.  The last tumor removal one of my boys had was about a year ago and it cost about $370 -- that included anesthesia, meds to take home, and the follow up exam.  The office always provides an itemized estimate in writing before booking the surgery and reviews the estimate with me again on the day of the surgery.

Big Ben: It's so cool that you have a rat with my name  -- give Louise some scritches from me :wave2:
Rat Care Corner / Re: Tobi and Irish getting along?
« Last post by BigBen on November 16, 2017, 11:32:06 AM »
Yep. I even started introducing them to the girls. At fist Irish puffed up and made sure he looked big, but he eventually calmed down. Tobi just let the girls climb all over him. Zucchini seems to like to clean his ears.

That is adorable!

I got two girls for my boy Bartholomew, who had not gotten along with my other rats when he first arrived.  When I put the girls in the cage, he was all "Daddy, why u do dis 2 me?" and wanted out of the cage as much as possible.  But slowly, the daughter of the pair won him over, and now he'd rather cuddle with the girls than come out of the cage!

They are Holbrook rescues and very shy.  Apparently the mother was quite traumatized by the experience.  When they are all out together (a real stressor to the girls, so I don't do it often), Bartholomew hovers solicitously to make sure they are both okay. :heart:
Rat Tails & Mug Shots / Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
« Last post by BigBen on November 16, 2017, 11:11:16 AM »
Oh, that tongue!
Rat Tails & Mug Shots / Re: Boy, did Neal say the wrong thing!
« Last post by BigBen on November 16, 2017, 11:03:12 AM »
Some people try to educate their adopted kids in their birth culture, so it's not necessarily a totally stupid question.  My South African niece and nephew learned Zulu and Xhosa in school, as well as English.  (I don't believe they studied Afrikaans, though; I'll have to ask.)
Rat Care Corner / Re: Annoying vet experience
« Last post by BigBen on November 16, 2017, 10:58:38 AM »
Michael, that price seems excessive, and they should certainly stick with the original quoted price.  I had a similar experience with price creep at my new vet's and will have to speak to them about it.  My vet in the Hudson Valley charged about $250-300 total for tumor removal, including anesthesia and all medications.  By the time I got done paying for Louise's tumor removal a couple of months ago, the price was over $500.  I certainly can't afford that on a regular basis!

But the point is that this veterinary hospital is known for their high prices.  Unfortunately, they are the only practice in the area that I have been able to find that takes rats.  But now that you mention your experience, and in light of Minerva's comment, I think I need to speak to them about their pricing.
Rat Care Corner / Re: Annoying vet experience
« Last post by MinervaThonosi on November 15, 2017, 10:39:22 PM »
Just last month I had my two boys neutered. Not including the pre-neuter appointment, it cost me $300 total. My vet didnít suggest any blood work. He just suggested having the boys x-rayed while they were under so he could see if they had any traces of mycoplasmosis. He says dumbos seem to get it more often and both of my boys are dumbos. I declined as it was an extra $199 per rat. I trust my vet. He specializes in exotic pets.

As a vet tech student, I appalled that they didnít give you a quote for everything. Thatís unacceptable. Last term I took office management and we were told itís best to give a quote for everything. That way the client doesnít get upset by the sudden jump in price.

I also think thatís way too much for a rat neuter. That price sounds more like a dog spay. At school we do spays and neuters on cats and dogs for the local aspca. In return, we get to practice the skills we will need in  practice. We do do blood work on them before sugery, to make sure theyíre healthy enough to go under anesthesia.

I would have had the same reaction as you. When given the price of the neuter it should have covered everything.
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