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Rat Care Corner / Re: Tobi and Irish getting along?
« Last post by MinervaThonosi on Yesterday at 10:58:09 PM »
Well they just had a little tussle. Looks like Irish doesn't want to share the igloo with Tobi. When I got over to the cage they both looked at me and Tobi went back to the space pod.

I check on both of them and didn't see any blood. I found one possible indent around the middle of Tobi's back, but no obvious injuries.

If I miss spelled anything it's because I'm using my iPad, which our instructors at school had us turn spell check and auto-correct off.
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Rat Care Corner / Re: Tobi and Irish getting along?
« Last post by BigBen on Yesterday at 06:32:09 PM »
My guess is that if there were going to be real hostilities, you'd already be seeing them.  Remember the old rule:  no blood, no foul.  Even though neutered, they still have to work out the dominance, and it only prolongs the process to interfere when not absolutely necessary.  If you catch them cuddling, then even if they are noisy at other times, it's okay.

If you start seeing fluffing up, arched backs, sidling (one rat moving his butt sideways into the other), that sort of thing, you might want to consider intervening.  If they tussle, observe what the aggressor's goal is.  If it's the neck, it's not serious antagonism; if the butt, keep a sharp eye out (that could be possible hostility, not just dominance).  There may be noise and there may be squeaking; this is normal.  Sometimes holding the two simultaneously can help, because it sends the message that you, the true alpha, consider both of them part of the mischief.  Vanilla on the neck and the rump (a small drop in each place) is supposed to help, though I've not seen it make a clear difference.  If they didn't lick the honey off each other, then smearing them with yoghurt isn't likely to work either.

Stressful experiences they could share would be a car ride in the same carrier, over a twisty, bumpy route with the radio fairly high.  Or time together in the tub with only a small island for them to take refuge on together as the water rises.
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Rat Care Corner / Re: Tobi and Irish getting along?
« Last post by MinervaThonosi on Yesterday at 06:24:20 PM »
I just got home from school. Husband watched them for me and said they were very calm. After doing some quick checking of their incisions, I watched as Irish walked around, look at Tobi(who was in the space pod) a couple times, and then he just walked back to his corner. He didn't seem to care. He may still be doped up, but I'm happy with what I saw.

No I have to wait until I can introduce them to their little sisters~
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Sorry you had losses so close together. These little guys leave such a big hole in your heart. Don't know if you've found your solution yet, but it's clear whichever way you go you're doing it out of love.  :heart:
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I forgot to mention, about the Wobust Wodent Wheels, that for some reason there was less pooping in when 1) I attached the wheel to the side although I had a stand, and 2) I sunk the money for the sandpaper-like insert. Go figure!  :doh:
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Home Squeak Home / Re: Silent Spinner Question
« Last post by Been to the Mountaintop on Yesterday at 01:57:58 PM »
We were able to get a replacement just for the sandpaper strip that goes inside, but I can't remember where. Superpet? My first try is to go on Google.com, select "images" and enter keywords like in this case Silent Spinner and if too many hits add replacement parts and look for a picture for what I want. If I don't see it I default to the big guys with a similar search--amazon, ebay, petsmart, petco. You could always try Craigslist or local rescues and try to find a used one...
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Rat Tails & Mug Shots / Re: MRR Lipsense Fundraiser
« Last post by Been to the Mountaintop on Yesterday at 01:52:45 PM »
Thank you!
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Rat Tails & Mug Shots / Re: Meet Zucchini and Rutabaga!!!
« Last post by Been to the Mountaintop on Yesterday at 01:52:00 PM »
Adorabubs!  :heart: Good luck with your studies! I'm laughing because a lot of people don't like rats, so we have a family "safe word" for them such as when we are out eating. And it is "rutabaga." As in, "have you fed the rutabagas yet?"  :yelcutelaugh:
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Rat Care Corner / Re: Pregnant rat!
« Last post by Been to the Mountaintop on Yesterday at 01:48:41 PM »
So sorry this happened. Do you want to keep the mama rat? If not, you could contact Mainely Rat Rescue or some other rescue to foster the whole mob and get the babies adopted out. You might even be able to get mama back after the birth.

When I've fostered pregnant mommies, I've put the largest size of igloo in there and lots of clean paper toweling. The first couple of days I'd leave them alone except to do a head count and check for milk bands when mama comes out to eat/drink/go. If she is upset enough to hurt the babies I'd wait.  I believe the Mainely Rat Rescue site has tips including immediately starting to provide baby mash and the recipe for baby mash. Let us know if you can't find it. But it's soft wet mix of foods with high protein and energy for mom and babies which we served on doubled paper plates. In my experience tame mamas will enjoy breaks and one-on-one time with you, and you can handle each baby every single day. Look online  for a picture of milk bands. Baby ratties are like little pink seethrough beans and you can see a stripe of white around their middles if they are getting milk.

The mommies and babies I've had have been great.  :heart:  Buckle your seat belt if you're used to old boys! Babies have astonishing energy!
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Rat Care Corner / Re: Tobi and Irish getting along?
« Last post by Been to the Mountaintop on Yesterday at 01:38:13 PM »
Glad you, to steal from comedian Dave Barry, decided to turn the volume knob WAY DOWN on their radios of love. Trying to bond them when they were still wonky from the drugs and stressed from the trip was a great idea. But you may need to separate them again for a while. I guess it can take 4-5 WEEKS to get testosterone out of their systems! :shocked2:  So don't give up.
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