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Title: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on December 20, 2015, 10:05:49 AM
Pele was born to a tiny young micro-eyed mom who was meant to feed a couples snake. The snake wasn't hungry so the young ratgirl got a reprieve, long enough to give birth to 9 pups. The wife of the couple decided that it was a sign and decided she had 24 hours to find this new family a home before they were returned back to the feeder bin.  Kaia linked me to the situation and I discovered she was a 15 minute walk from my home. :)
Mira and her babies came home and all was well for about 12 days. Then an orphaned litter had to join her and her family as I had the only nursing mom.
Pele at this point was “one of the PEW girls” without a name, I was worrying more about her tiny foster sister Lyra at this time.
This all changed when I took the extended family to my moms in the country for the weekend. I woke up at 3 am on the couch to a horrific shriek, rushed to the cage on the desk and found this little girl up in the corner gasping and bleeding from her face. I pulled her out, then moved the whole cage to a standalone table. I realized my mom must’ve had a wildie in the house who bit Pele's nose and yanked. :(  I stayed up with Pele in my hands or cuddled to my neck from then on. She was gasping and swallowing all that blood. I got pics of her a few hours later

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%206%2015%20Pele%20injured%202.jpg)

She was so sore and swollen she was unable to nurse, eat or drink, and for a day or so I was very hesitant on trying to syringe anything into her as she was gasping. She preferred licking the formula off my finger.

But my brave, brave baby now named Pele ended up living on me when I was home, taking comfort in my hands, submitting to the nastiness of metacam and antibiotics, and after many scary up and downs started slowly coming around.

She became friends with a very elderly gentle boy called Nigel that she would share dinner with and cuddle up to.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%209%2015%20Pele%20and%20Nigel.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2015%2015%20Nigel%20and%20pele.jpg)

It was around this time I started noticing some strange mannerisms. She was constantly flapping her gums and rolling her tongue out if her head. Often lifting her head up like a Hydro baby might. Seemed to have a disconnect between her mouth and her stiffly outstretched front legs, but wasn't clumsy in her hind leg scratching and was very deft at that. Once those waving front legs caught my finger, she was able to lick things off of it pretty well. Then 2 days ago she started sort of chewing a little.

Here are a few videos of my lovely baby…

Dec. 13th

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/th_Dec%2013%2015%20Pele.jpg) (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Dec%2013%2015%20Pele.mp4)

Both of these are from Dec. 19th


(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/th_Dec%2019%2015%20Pele%20eating%20noodles.jpg) (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2019%2015%20Pele%20eating%20noodles.mp4)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/th_Dec%2019%2015%20Pele%20eating%20my%20banana%20loaf.jpg) (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2019%2015%20Pele%20eating%20my%20banana%20loaf.mp4)

So it looks like this will be an ongoing thread for my brave baby, who is learning to play, eat “solids” and get into a bit of trouble lol
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on December 20, 2015, 01:10:49 PM
Thanks for sharing, it is a great story. Poor Pele, but looks like she is doing better and she sure is in excellent care with you :heart: thanks for saving her mom.
I'm looking forward to hear her and her sibkings adventures  :BlueDumboSmile:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on December 20, 2015, 11:09:42 PM
What a sweetie-pie!  That picture of Nigel being protective tugs hard at the heartstrings.  I hope she thrives and grows up to be a lovely lady rat.  Bless you for taking her mama in.

I had wildies in the apartment two winters ago (the apartment has since been sealed up, so no further problem, thank God!), and one of them bit half my beautiful sweet Lucy's tail off (fortunately I didn't know about it till it was over, or I'd have been a mess) and injured several other rats through the cage bars.  I believe she was ultimately responsible for the neurological damage that meant I had to put down my beautiful sweet Uriel, too.  (Either she beat him up while he was out of the cage, or he fell trying to get at her, is my theory.)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on December 21, 2015, 01:03:18 AM
Do you guys believe it was bad luck you got wild rat in your house/apartment or did they got attracted by the scent of intact females?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on December 21, 2015, 08:19:31 AM
Shelagh, Pele is adorable!  I'm glad she has you (and Nigel) to take care of her.  Bless you for taking her and her family!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on December 21, 2015, 09:11:32 AM
Shelagh, Pele is adorable!  I'm glad she has you (and Nigel) to take care of her.  Bless you for taking her and her family!

Sadly Nigel passed a few days ago, but Pele has her family during the day and Me while at home trying to stuff soft food in her :). I will be keeping mom, tiny Lyra, protective foster sister Sila (different rescue baby who lives with the Extended Family) and Pele. The other babies are quite rough on her and will be adopted out :)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on December 21, 2015, 12:44:47 PM
Do you guys believe it was bad luck you got wild rat in your house/apartment or did they got attracted by the scent of intact females?

I don't believe it was the scent of females, particularly, just of other rats.  My rats and the wild girls seemed to be very antagonistic and not friendly at all.  It was also partly luck, because I had no problem in previous years.  As a result of this experience, the landlord was motivated to seal up the outside holes in the building; he also has one of the maintenance men come an seal the holes in my apartment walls.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Vonda Z on December 21, 2015, 12:49:13 PM
What a sweet story. She is so lucky to have you. I am so sorry for your loss in losing Nigel. Hope everything works out for this extended rat family of yours.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on December 21, 2015, 01:26:44 PM
Shelagh, Pele is adorable!  I'm glad she has you (and Nigel) to take care of her.  Bless you for taking her and her family!

Sadly Nigel passed a few days ago, but Pele has her family during the day and Me while at home trying to stuff soft food in her :). I will be keeping mom, tiny Lyra, protective foster sister Sila (different rescue baby who lives with the Extended Family) and Pele. The other babies are quite rough on her and will be adopted out :)

I'm so sorry to hear of Nigel's passing!  At least Pele has others to keep her company.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on December 21, 2015, 02:03:54 PM
Her companions that are staying...

Mom - Mira (short for Miracle)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%206%2015%20Mira%202.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%206%2015%20Mira%20nursing.jpg~original)

Lyra - the wee 'un who put me through fits with her runtiness :)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2011%2015%20Lyra%20all%20fat%20and%20sassy.jpg~original)

and Sila (a lucky pickup 2 weeks ago, bought as a baby feeder rat, but owner sold snake and had her left over.  She's only a little older than everyone else and is all rough play with healthy babies but cuddles and takes care of smaller or sickly babies :D)

She's the smeeze

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%205%2015%20Sila%20and%20her%20new%20family%202.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on December 21, 2015, 02:04:48 PM
Oh my!  Such a precious bunch!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on December 21, 2015, 02:39:03 PM
Oh my goodness, they are adorable!  I'm so sorry to hear about Nigel, though.  I was hoping he could help take care of Pele for a while.  At least you have all these cuties to console you.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on December 22, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
So sorry to hear about Nigel. Glad to hear little Pele is making it, and so proud of mom, too.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on December 29, 2015, 01:06:29 PM
New pics from over Christmas :D

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2026%2015%20Pele%202.jpg~original)

Standing on Lyra, while cuddled up on Grandma

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2026%2015%20Pele%20and%20Lyra.jpg~original)

Exploring!!

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2026%2015%20Pele%20and%20Mickey.jpg~original)

As Lyra watched
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2026%2015%20Pele%203.jpg~original)

I'm Speshul!!

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2028%2015%20Pele.jpg~original)

a little video of her

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/th_Dec%2028%2015%20Pele%20at%20moms.mp4) (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2028%2015%20Pele%20at%20moms.mp4)

and her learning how to eat off of a flat surface on the ground...

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2028%2015%20Pele%206.jpg~original)

She (and her 2 companions) are going to the vet tomorrow as her upper incisors are really messed up and I can smell faint infection smell.  You can see it here.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2028%2015%20Pele%205.jpg~original)

She's just a happy happy girl and nothing keeps her down!

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2028%2015%20Pele%202.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Vonda Z on December 29, 2015, 01:52:20 PM
OMG - so much adorable rattie tongue! Thud!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on December 29, 2015, 02:17:00 PM
More tongue :D

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2028%2015%20Pele%204.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2028%2015%20Pele%203.jpg~original)

I am scared to death about tomorrow....  :-\
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on December 29, 2015, 03:03:46 PM
We'll be keeping you and Pele in our good thoughts.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on December 29, 2015, 03:41:11 PM
Oh, that tongue!  She is pretty darn special!  I hope the news at the vet is better than you expect tomorrow.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Michael C on December 29, 2015, 04:46:29 PM
Good luck tomorrow!

That tongue is amazing. Were she mine, I'd be giving her stuff to lick all of the time!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Kitsch Slapped on December 29, 2015, 05:37:17 PM
How precious she is!! Aw good vibes for the vet visit. *scritches for all the ratties* :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: LuvRats2 on December 29, 2015, 07:45:33 PM
I am so sorry about your loss with Nigel. Pele is absolutely precious, I am so glad she is feeling better. Seeing her pictures made my night, and the others are adorable as well. I hope that infection goes away quickly for her.

Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on December 29, 2015, 09:24:54 PM
How did it go at the vet?  Prayers...
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on December 30, 2015, 12:16:44 PM
The vet appointment was this morning and it went as well as can be expected :)  I didn't get the terrifying news that the bite had shattered her teeth and caused chunks to go into her sinus (been there, done that...never want to do it again).  Her teeth are nubs but solid nubs, so I am to feel those nubs every day or so to make sure they are still solid and not wiggly.  We put her on zithromax for 3 weeks for the infection and I will give her a bit of metacam.  The opposite side of the bite we are both pretty sure the cheek was fractured probably causing all the toothy issues.  She's in great shape overall and Dr Munn said I did an excellent job getting her to that type of health.  We are going to wait until she's at least 85 grams before attempting x-rays to see what's really going on.  He LOVED all the babies.  Had them climbing all over him and into his sleeves and onto his shoulders LOL
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on December 30, 2015, 05:32:44 PM
I'm glad that everything looks okay with her toofers.  I hope she heals up quick!  She's quite a character!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on January 05, 2016, 10:26:01 AM
CongRATs! Isn't it amazing how these special cases find their way to you? Any idea how her cheek broke?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Deblee on January 05, 2016, 12:09:31 PM
Shelagh, just........HUGS!  She is precious and so lucky to have YOU!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on January 05, 2016, 02:52:51 PM
CongRATs! Isn't it amazing how these special cases find their way to you? Any idea how her cheek broke?

My assumption is that when I went to visit my mom with the entire Extended Family there was a wildie in her home (country) that I wasn't aware of.  Little Pele stuck her wee nose through the bars and the Wildie bit through her muzzle and probably yanked due to the swelling and trauma on the side opposite the bite :(  I heard the shriek and ran for the cage (moved it to safe place right after) My poor baby girl...I held and cuddled her for days, gave her metacam when she stopped gasping, let her suck formula off my hand when she could...a very scary time for us both.

the bite caused some really crazy trauma, and I am starting to think nerve damage to her mouth, etc. 

New pics of my girly...she seems better, brighter and stronger and she's growing daily now!!

Last night she weighed 80 grams!!

Dec. 31st, sleepy cuddles in mom's hand.  Also some gentle kisses.  :heart:

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2031%2015%20Pele%202.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2031%2015%20Pele%203.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2031%2015%20Pele.jpg~original)

We lost her next oldie (Patience was 3 years old!) so I gave her even older sweet man Coyote...she promptly started licking him.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%202%2016%20Pele%20licking%20Coyote.jpg~original)

Then the following morning, as I sat with the laptop in my lap...she crawled up and was underneath the laptop near my hands hoping for some scritches :D

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%203%2016%20Pele.jpg~original)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%203%2016%20Pele%202.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on January 05, 2016, 03:24:30 PM
I love the pictures you post!  You always post wonderful pictures.   :heart:

I'm glad to hear the vet appointment went well last week.  Pele can use some good vibes, and I'm so glad she has you and your oldies to help her grow.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: LuvRats2 on January 05, 2016, 05:23:11 PM
I think Pele has a fan club :)

So glad she's doing well! I love seeing her updates.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on January 05, 2016, 06:19:47 PM
We are all cheering for you, Pele! What a cutie.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on January 08, 2016, 01:02:48 AM
She's certainly looking better now than she did in that first photo.  I hope she has a swift and complete recovery. Pele is truly blessed to have you looking after her.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on January 08, 2016, 05:16:48 PM
Pele is such a little love bug!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on January 09, 2016, 10:21:25 PM
Pele is still gaining and growing, and unfortunately still sneezing and making noises. :/

But she was a happy little camper tonight. I let her have her Coyote for awhile then we played under the blanket :D

She's moulting right now as well, so you can see her pink skin in a hoodie pattern over her back and head...soo funny!  I cannot catch it on camera though.

Somebody wants to play

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%209%2015%20Pele.jpg~original)

*bounce*
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%209%2016%20Pele%202.jpg~original)

And taking care of her Coyote in her frenetic little way (video)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/th_Jan%209%2016%20Pele%20with%20Coyote.mp4) (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%209%2016%20Pele%20with%20Coyote.mp4)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: *Kat* on January 09, 2016, 11:13:16 PM
such a cutie!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on January 10, 2016, 02:17:18 PM
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2010%2016%20Pele%20molting.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/rattiluv/media/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2010%2016%20Pele%20molting.jpg.html)

Success! Caught the "pink" hoodie  ;D

She's 88 grams today...woohoo!!

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2010%2016%20Pele%203.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/rattiluv/media/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2010%2016%20Pele%203.jpg.html)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2010%2016%20Pele%202.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/rattiluv/media/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2010%2016%20Pele%202.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: dogsnbears on January 10, 2016, 05:36:02 PM
that is a perfect pic of her hood, and she's looking great!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on January 10, 2016, 10:03:33 PM
Love it! She is all sorts of adorable. 
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: MaatAset on January 14, 2016, 10:48:12 PM
She's so precious  :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on January 15, 2016, 10:45:43 AM
89 grams as of yesterday morning but her sneezing is the same or worse :(  The zithromax isn't cutting it for her :( 

I will try to get pics of her this weekend :D
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: LuvRats2 on January 15, 2016, 02:01:45 PM
She is a gorgeous girl!!! :) Praying her sneezes get better. I just love seeing your updates!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on January 17, 2016, 01:51:36 PM
She's 97 grams this morning...woohoo!!!  She is 9.5 weeks old and has a young girl's body with her funny hamster-like face  :heart:

And onto the pics...

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2017%2016%20Pele.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2016%2016%20Pele%20cuddled%20up.jpg~original)

You can really see the damage in his pic

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2016%2016%20Pele.jpg~original)

Cuddling in my hand *swoon*

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2017%2016%20Pele%202_1.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2017%20Pele%203.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on January 17, 2016, 06:20:22 PM
So precious!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on January 28, 2016, 11:15:05 AM
These are just quick pics (not pretty as she's a messy eater and I was in a hurry...no time to clean up this morning).

I think I made her FAT.  She looks like a white Syrian hamster at times LOL I weighed her last night and she's 115 grams!

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2027%2016%20Chubby%20Pele%205.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2027%2016%20Chubby%20Pele%204.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2028%2016%20chubby%20Pele%202.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2027%2016%20Chubby%20Pele%203.jpg~original)

Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on January 28, 2016, 11:40:59 AM
Hopefully it's "pre growth spurt" fat!  ;)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on January 28, 2016, 03:27:11 PM
She's still adorable!!  <3
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on January 29, 2016, 05:05:40 PM
I don't think she's fat--she looks like the perfect weight to me!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on January 30, 2016, 08:19:09 AM
I think your right BigBen. I decided to close my eyes and feel her body and she feels solid but not fat. I am always worrying about this precious girl who entered my life so unexpectedly that all my years of experience fly out the window and I act like I'm a newbie again  :yelcutelaugh:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on January 30, 2016, 10:03:55 AM
Pics from this morning

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2030%2016%20Pele%20at%2010%20weeks%202.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2030%2016%20Pele%20at%2010%20weeks%203.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2030%2016%20Pele%20at%2010%20weeks.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on January 30, 2016, 12:42:02 PM
What great shots!  Especially the middle one, which makes her look endearingly fierce, when she obviously couldn't harm a fly.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on January 30, 2016, 02:43:49 PM
Aww Pele is a darling:) I'm happy she is doing so well. I'm a Pele fan, keep those updates coming. Who is her best rat friend, did she bond with another rat in particular?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on January 30, 2016, 06:26:25 PM
She lives with Sila, Lyra and her mom Mira who is her favourite sleep mate :)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: LuvRats2 on January 30, 2016, 07:59:08 PM
Aww Lilspaz, she is looking so beautiful!  :thumbsup2: You just have to smile looking at her pics.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on January 30, 2016, 10:47:20 PM
She looks awesome!  Such a darling girl.  :)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: homebody on February 16, 2016, 09:35:41 PM
I haven't logged into the forum in a while, and it's been ages since my last post, but little Pele is worth it. I adore her.  :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on February 16, 2016, 09:40:55 PM
How is Pele doing now? I hope she is doing great:)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on February 16, 2016, 10:51:50 PM
Pele is wonderful...thanks for asking!!  Her mom on the other hand has been dealing with a persistent sinus infection then the back went crunk last week and she's been taking care of me. 

On Thursday I drop Pele and her mom Mira off so Pele can have her teeth trimmed and that skull x-rayed so we know what we are really dealing with. She still sneezes and snorts but I think/hope its because of damaged sinuses not anything more serious.

She's a biiiig girl now of 132 grams and I finally screwed up the courage to get that x-ray done.  Her lower incisors are very overgrown and she'll have to get her first trim, and most likely will be getting them all her life along with my other toothy rat monster I named Teefs. Teefs is less than a year, so she and Pele will probably go in for years to come...every 3 weeks :P

But onto the best part...the pics...

She loves to be in my hand....no matter if she has to shove her way under. She's slept in my hands many times, or under my chin :)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2012%2016.jpg~original)

A little roomier

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2012%2016%20Pele%202.jpg~original)

My pretty gal

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2016%2016%20Pele.jpg~original)

Comforting and keeping her Mom company when she was sick

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2012%2016%20Pele%203.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: LuvRats2 on February 17, 2016, 12:34:33 PM
She is growing up so beautiful!!! :)

And I hope your back is feeling better. Praying the x-ray comes back positively for you both!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on February 17, 2016, 04:25:17 PM
Aww Pele has been doing great given the circumstances. It has been tough for both of you. I hope you will feel better soon and that Pele X-rays will be encouraging. Looking forward to the next Pele update:)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on February 18, 2016, 06:40:59 AM
Last night I was trying to see super squirmy girl's lower incisors and one of her upper incisors came off in my fingers!! It's got black bits and its hollow so must have rotted out :(

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2017%2016%20Pele%20top%20incisor.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/rattiluv/media/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2017%2016%20Pele%20top%20incisor.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on February 18, 2016, 08:05:21 AM
Wild! That looks like a dirty cat claw! She is so cute. Isn't it amazing how with crushed skull, infected tooth etc. she so loves life?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on February 18, 2016, 10:29:13 AM
Wild! That looks like a dirty cat claw! She is so cute. Isn't it amazing how with crushed skull, infected tooth etc. she so loves life?

it really really is!

Here's her bottom incisors, I had to clip them last week at home because I found one embedded in her lip so couldn't leave it to hurt her and get infected.  Poor baby.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2016%2016%20Pele%20bottom%20incisors.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on February 18, 2016, 09:23:23 PM
OK home from the vet, Pelee is sleeping in my lap so of course I have the laptop down on my legs akwardly so I don't disturb her rest.

She got her x-ray, and there was no fracture, it seems her skull grew this way from the bite/damage since she was still growing when it happened. Her top incisors were fractured and now both have come out...but you can still see a lot of tooth root deep inside which could end up causing future problems with infections etc.  Her bottom incisors will need trims very often and I assume that I will be packing up her and my other toothy wonder called Teefs who gets her maloccluded teeth trimmed every 3-3.5 weeks.

The bite caused brain damage so the disconnect with her mouth and her awkward grasp is more likely permanent.  She may be on baytril to prevent infection for the rest of her life, and I'll be trying metacam starting tomorrow to see if she is getting relief from discomfort.

Its kind of what I expected but at least we know what we are dealing with now.

Her bottom teeth look great and there's no infection as of yet in the tops.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2018%2016%20Pele.jpg~original)

We were sooo happy to be reunited! They brought out the small cage she and her mom were in and as soon as she heard my voice she was climbing the bars to get to me :|LOL

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2018%2016%20Pele%202.jpg~original)

Pele kisses are the best  :heart: :heart:

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2018%2016%20Pele%20kisses.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on February 18, 2016, 10:50:46 PM
At least the x-rays gave you some answers!  We will hope and pray that those upper tooth roots grow out normally, and she ends up with perfect little toofers!

She is such a sweet girl, and definitely a mama's girl!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on February 22, 2016, 11:12:47 AM
My vet used to take pics of the x-rays and email them to me, but the clinic has changed, much too busy for those little details now :(  I asked if the next time I am in, i could bring my camera and take pics of the x-ray myself. :P

Her family got a new addition (a huge neutered black berk boy who is/was scared of other rats) but seems very content with his new wee squirmy family, and is actually playing with the little girls. Pele is often sleeping cuddled up to his side...they are quite the pair!

Old pic of Franky from last year...he looks pretty much the same, just a bit bigger and not as worried about things.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Franky%20-%20May%208%2015%20Sarah%20THS/May%2028%2015%20Franky.jpg~original)

Happy Pele exploring

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2021%2016%20Pele.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2021%2016%20Pele%202.jpg~original)

Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on February 22, 2016, 01:23:30 PM
Franky is GORGEOUS! Franky and Pele sitting in a tree, B R U X I N G!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on February 23, 2016, 09:56:31 AM
We have a BIG problem Houston...

Pele had her teeth trimmed short on Thursday afternoon right?  The gums at the back of the incisors are higher than the front so the teeth were trimmed down to the back gumline.  I checked them on Thursday night during our many "OMG I missed you cuddles"

Last night she was flapping away when I saw something...

I grabbed her and managed to get a pic...this is her teeth FOUR days later...FOUR.  :shocked2:

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2022%2015%20eve%20Pele%20bottom%20incisors.jpg~original)

Ummmm....she might need them trimmed weekly...trying to reach my vet but he's very sick and might not be in at all this week...  :puppy_dog_eyes:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on February 23, 2016, 02:22:29 PM
 Whoa just 4 days!!! Poor Pele.
That hasn't nothing to do with the bite, does it?
Do you think you could learn to do the teeth trimmings at home?
At least she has you, what a lucky rat:)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on February 24, 2016, 08:38:55 AM
Well, you had Teefs. Now you have Phangs.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on February 24, 2016, 10:27:03 AM
I think they called my vet at home (he's been horribly sick all week) and told him about Pele (or emailed pics) and I managed to get an appointment with him at 9:15 am on Friday morning.  *whew*
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on February 27, 2016, 11:39:04 AM
I of course forgot to bring my camera so I could get pics of her skull X-ray.

So her options aren't great. We trimmed her bottom teeth down again and are going to watch for the same crazy growth. We are hoping the growth slows down as she ages (she's only 3.5 mo) as surgery to remove those healthy bottom teeth could be quite life and death because of the possibility of jaw fracture. So for now we trim weekly and see how it goes. I got a nice surprise when I got my bill, the trims will be heavily discounted  :thumbsup2:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on February 27, 2016, 12:06:02 PM
I hope she will be ok and that eventually her teeth stop growing so fast. Good to know about the discount, so you won't have to break the bank. Is the super fast growth of her teeth due to the fracture or would she have had it anyway?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on February 27, 2016, 02:37:24 PM
Hooray for a discount!  I hope the growth slows down once she gets a little older. 
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: erbusbee on February 28, 2016, 04:53:13 PM
Azizi could only go 2 weeks between trims, and I took him in as an adult, so I'm always shocked when I hear about people who can go a month in between trims!  Hopefully your girl's growth slows down.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 02, 2016, 08:44:43 AM
I looked at Pele's teeth last night (same 4 day mark) and one is growing faster than the other...sigh. She and Teefs are booked in for Friday drop off.

Teefs teeth are getting worse. Her right upper tusk has black spots on it usually indicating it's rotting inside. Her bottom incisors are growing up to her lip faster than normal. Friday will be 3 weeks on the nose but it might even be too late.

I got 2 pics (1 blurry) showing her teeth yesterday of which I can't post on my phone...grrr. I'll post when I get to work.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 02, 2016, 10:12:32 AM
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Teefs%20-%20Sep%208%2015%20-%20Malocclusion/Mar%201%2016%20Teefs%20teeth.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Teefs%20-%20Sep%208%2015%20-%20Malocclusion/Mar%201%2016%20Teefs%20teeth%202.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on March 02, 2016, 11:17:08 AM
Oh, that looks painful!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on March 02, 2016, 11:24:09 AM
It looks painful. Do they get some painkillers?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 02, 2016, 12:00:57 PM
It looks painful. Do they get some painkillers?

Not at this point.  She does get mushy food.  After the trim she sometimes gets pain medications, but is often able to chew on solids again after a few days.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on March 02, 2016, 08:09:20 PM
Poor Teefs! Did something happen to Teefs, or is this a genetic problem? Can Teefs brux?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 03, 2016, 08:13:18 AM
Poor Teefs! Did something happen to Teefs, or is this a genetic problem? Can Teefs brux?

Teefs was born like this. A girl bought her as a baby from the petstore and tried her best to afford the trims, but she kept Leaving it too late and the bottom incisors would grow into the lip and get infected. Each vet trip became a $200 expense. She was going to euth her until I stepped in. She was only 5 months old at the time.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 03, 2016, 08:17:40 AM
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Teefs%20and%20Co%20-%20Scarb%20and%20Pboro%20Sep%202015/Sep%2025%2015%20Teefs%20and%20Deva.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/rattiluv/media/Unnamed%20Rats/Teefs%20and%20Co%20-%20Scarb%20and%20Pboro%20Sep%202015/Sep%2025%2015%20Teefs%20and%20Deva.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on March 03, 2016, 09:32:29 AM
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Teefs%20and%20Co%20-%20Scarb%20and%20Pboro%20Sep%202015/Sep%2025%2015%20Teefs%20and%20Deva.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/rattiluv/media/Unnamed%20Rats/Teefs%20and%20Co%20-%20Scarb%20and%20Pboro%20Sep%202015/Sep%2025%2015%20Teefs%20and%20Deva.jpg.html)

Awww!!  How sweet!   :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 04, 2016, 10:29:55 AM
We have Pele x-rays :)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/medical/Teeth%20and%20Mouth/Feb%2018%2016%20Pele%20xray%20side%20skull.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/medical/Teeth%20and%20Mouth/Feb%2018%2016%20Pele%20xray%20top%20skull.jpg~original)

now if I could find normal rat skull x-rays to compare that would be awesome!! Anyone know where to find any?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: LuvRats2 on March 05, 2016, 06:10:58 AM
Hi Lilspaz,

I just went to google and typed in 'normal rat skull xray' - and under images it seems to be showing one. (For me it's the second image shown over to the right. The first one seems to be a human skull, and then right after that.) I clicked on that image and it matches like the one you have above. Hope that helps, LR2
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 05, 2016, 09:49:53 AM
I'll see if my phone allows me to search.. Thanks for the tip!

Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 05, 2016, 09:50:57 AM
The good news is that Dr. Munn thinks we can *try* for 2 weeks between trims for Pele. Keep your fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 05, 2016, 11:44:02 AM
OK I think I found some decent pics to show the difference.

Side view normal

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/medical/Teeth%20and%20Mouth/received_10208261711758282_1.jpeg~original)

Pele's

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/medical/Teeth%20and%20Mouth/Pele%20skull%202.jpg~original)

top view (whole skeleton)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Rar%20skeleton%20xray.jpg~original)


Pele's

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/medical/Teeth%20and%20Mouth/Feb%2018%2016%20Pele%20xray%20top%20skull.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on March 05, 2016, 05:22:22 PM
You can see the roots of her upper teeth still up there.  I wonder if they don't cause her issues. 
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 06, 2016, 08:20:38 AM
They could cause issues like infection but we are watching for that..poor bubbie.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on March 08, 2016, 12:19:54 PM
X-rays are interesting, but don't count as Pele pics.  :poke:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 08, 2016, 02:40:53 PM
X-rays are interesting, but don't count as Pele pics.  :poke:

I am planning on some soon.  I have been nursing a sweet little oldie in her last days (Pele has been out with us but Kitty insisted on being ON me as much as possible)  Kitty passed yesterday morning quietly, so now we can go back to our regularly scheduled program :D

I really should try to get a pic of her playing with me...she uses her paws like another rat would use their mouth...its sooo funny!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 08, 2016, 08:47:42 PM
I got a couple of decent pics and some blurrier ones as she was bouncing around too much :D

Like Mother like daughter LOL

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%206%2015%20Mira.jpg~original)


(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%208%2016%20Pele%203.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%208%2016%20Pele%202.jpg~original)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%208%2016%20Pele.jpg~original)


Where's MY dinner??!!

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%208%2016%20Pele%204.jpg~original)

Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on March 08, 2016, 08:58:59 PM
Yummy nanner!

And Pele tongue!  Yay!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on March 09, 2016, 11:38:24 AM
 :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 14, 2016, 04:56:51 PM
Those dang teeth! 

I took pics yesterday, the 9 day post-trim pictures. 
Sigh :/

Called vet clinic told them I was emailing pics to see if Pele should come before Friday, found out my vet isn't in until Wednesday anyways so the earliest would be Thursday :(

At rest.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%2013%2016%20Pele%20teeth%202.jpg)

Trying to show you how long they are...

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%2013%2016%20Pele%20teeth%201.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%2013%2016%20Pele%20teeth%203.jpg)

Running along with bay window at my mom's this weekend...

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%2013%2016%20Pele%20on%20the%20window%20sill.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on March 14, 2016, 05:14:44 PM
**sigh** Those darned teeth!!  I can't believe how much they've grown since they were trimmed.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on March 14, 2016, 06:01:18 PM
I edited because the pics weren't showing for me...  Hopefully they'll work for everyone now...

This poor girl just can't catch a break!  And neither can you!  :(
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on March 14, 2016, 06:50:45 PM
Oh no. They grow so fast! Is it because of her injury or not related at all? I hope it will start to slow down as she ages.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on March 16, 2016, 08:33:30 AM
Poor baby. I love her eyes. Since the X-ray showed the teeth at too deformed an angle for proper bruxing, could you just have them removed?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 16, 2016, 11:15:11 AM
Poor baby. I love her eyes. Since the X-ray showed the teeth at too deformed an angle for proper bruxing, could you just have them removed?

No because they are set in solidly, not diseased or rotten which would make it a lot easier.  the chances of fracturing her jaw (and ultimately ending her life are waaay too high in this case for me to be remotely comfortable with it.  Incisor removal is a huuuge surgery and very dangerous.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 17, 2016, 10:28:48 AM
Wellll we actually have some good news today.  Whether it was the top incisors falling out or the trims she's received, Pele's teeth seem to be growing OUTSIDE of her mouth, which means not piercing it but just pressing on the outside of her lip.  She can still eat as her teeth grow one way and she licks out of the side of her mouth.  We *might* be able to trim every 3 weeks if Dr Munn agrees with my assessment :)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: MinervaThonosi on March 17, 2016, 11:12:53 AM
Yay!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on March 17, 2016, 10:16:37 PM
 :thumbsup2:  Here's hoping!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 18, 2016, 01:41:33 PM
Good news!!!  Dr Munn agrees we can try for 3 weeks between trims for Miss Pele :D

Btw she's huge now...practically the size of her wee mum :D
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on March 18, 2016, 03:39:36 PM
Hooray!!  Miss Pele is adapting quite well, then!  I hope it continues.  :)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on March 18, 2016, 05:06:20 PM
Hooray!!  Miss Pele is adapting quite well, then!  I hope it continues.  :)

I second this!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 22, 2016, 11:34:38 AM
new Pele pics :)  She has a real love for oldies...she cuddles up to them, grooms them gently, and keeps them company.  She prefers these little oldies to even her own family.  I left her out with Eagan my 38 month old boy who is more or less living on my bed :)  I had him in with some other oldies but he wasn't really happy, so back out on my bed he went to his joy.

Eagan

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Toronto%20Feb%2012%2013/Mar%2021%2016%20Eagan%20at%2038%20mo.jpg)

Eagan and Pele

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%2021%2016%20Eagan%20and%20Pele.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%2022%2016%20Pele%20cuddled%20with%20Eagan.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%2021%2016%20Pele%202.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Mar%2022%2016%20Pele.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on March 22, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
What a beautiful couple! Eagan looks AMAZING for 38 months!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: RattieEnthusiast on March 24, 2016, 01:49:19 AM
I love Eagan and Pele. Their companionship makes for some interesting ship names too, Eagle, for example.  :hyper: :hyper: :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on April 10, 2016, 10:57:09 PM
How's Pele?  :angel13:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on April 12, 2016, 12:48:12 PM
She's lovely.  She's got a ton of oldie companions and its been really crazy at my place in the last month hence no pics.  A rescue situation was supposed to be 2 adults, 12 babies (implied they were newborn) ended up being 3 adults, a mouse who lived with them (including an adult male rat  :eek:) and 19 babies which quickly turned into 33 babies (4 back to back litters for the 2 young females).
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on April 12, 2016, 01:20:00 PM
I saw the picture of Mr. Mousie (I know, not his name... Little Rat?) but didn't know about all the rescues and babies (REALLY?!  People don't know that putting a male in with females will result in babies?  And then to give the pregnant females to someone else.  **tsk tsk**)  (BTW... The little male mouse who thinks he's a rat is so cute!!)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on April 12, 2016, 03:03:34 PM
She's lovely.  She's got a ton of oldie companions and its been really crazy at my place in the last month hence no pics.  A rescue situation was supposed to be 2 adults, 12 babies (implied they were newborn) ended up being 3 adults, a mouse who lived with them (including an adult male rat  :eek:) and 19 babies which quickly turned into 33 babies (4 back to back litters for the 2 young females).
That a lot of ratties. They were pregnant again while still nursing:( Poor ratties, must be tough on their bodies. Are you fostering them for a rescue or just got them directly?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on April 12, 2016, 04:50:13 PM
I picked them up directly but a wonderful rescue is going to take in any babies I need to adopt out which is wonderful. 

The online ad basically said that my pet male rat and his girl companion had too many babies.  Its too hard to clean.  About 12 babies.  Come on down, bring a container and take as many as you want. Ad was for free baby rats, free adult rats.

Went there (seriously scary area at 10:30 pm...some wonderful rescue friends drove me when they heard where I was going)  and found a whole bunch of vertical type bird cages cobbled together and rats EVERYWHERE!

The guy lifted up the cages from the base (which was a coffee table) and picked up the box in the bottom..baby rats scattered everywhere onto the floor :(  It was awful!!..we were on hands and knees tryign to get babies out from under a wall radiator and under furniture.  Props to my friends husband for not batting an eye and just kept scooping up babies and tossing them at me.  I started pulling out the babies that were huddled up on the top levels and in the dim light pulled out a little black guy, looked at him and said "YOU look like a mouse" and it was him (named Gatsby).  None had names prior.  It was an insane rescue.

The 2 girls were communal nursing and the older one is most likely the tiny girls mom.  She was exhausted because she was feeding ALL that she could while heavily pregnant.  She popped and had 10 babies 2 days after I got her home. Sadly 6 died because of the communal nursing...she didn't have enough milk.  Had to force-wean the oldest, and they lived with Dad, then a weekish later the girls came out and the new males went in.  Its been a tricky balancing act and we almost lost 2 babies to a crazy accident of the 4 survivors, etc.  The bigger momma was biting iniitally but now she's very trusting.  The little girl got HUGE, and finally popped on April 1st, and Gatsby Mouse-Rat is thrilled to help out again.  :D 
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on April 12, 2016, 04:50:38 PM
NOW you'll probably understand why i haven't updated pics of Pele.  :cheeky:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on April 12, 2016, 06:53:31 PM
Whoa that's crazy. How can people be so irresponsible and careless! Jeez I hope they don't have kids or they surely will be messed up for life. They were super extra lucky you saw that ad, what are the chances. What a rescue! Keep us updated....huh...that is when you have a little free time😮
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on April 12, 2016, 10:42:52 PM
A small sleepy story line featuring Ferdy (but with a cameo of Pele  :cheeky:) ...

Ferdy loves to use rats to lie on, he puts his feet on them and sleeps with a smile on his face.  Rats get used to his little idiosyncrasy and put up with it after awhile.  He really didn't like Pele...she moved too quick, would climb on him with her sharp claws as he whines like a baby...still does but she's more respectful.  She is the perfect size to rest his chin on

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Ferdinand%20Dec%2024%2014/Apr%2012%2016%20Ferdy%20on%20Pele.jpg)

*Mine*

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Ferdinand%20Dec%2024%2014/Apr%2012%2016%20Ferdy%20on%20Pele%20mine.jpg)

Then she moved, and was grooming and coming out to see me :D

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Apr12%2016%20Pele.jpg)

So he went onto his next footwarmer, little Walk About PT gal Cece...he surprised me by very gently grooming her...he's normally a rough, overly-brusque boy, no malice but no sensitivity...until now...awww

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Ferdinand%20Dec%2024%2014/Apr%2012%2016%20Ferdy%20on%20Cece.jpg)

*Mine*

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Ferdinand%20Dec%2024%2014/Apr%2012%2016%20Ferdy%20on%20Cece%20mine.jpg)

And I caught a big contented yawn :D

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Ferdinand%20Dec%2024%2014/Apr%2012%2016%20Ferdy%20yawn.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on April 13, 2016, 10:07:00 AM
AWWW. Just. Thud. Already.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on April 13, 2016, 10:22:13 AM
I love the big yawn picture!

And yes, that IS a lot of babies!  I can understand you being pretty busy, so an update WHEN you can will be great.   :-*
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: erbusbee on April 13, 2016, 02:19:39 PM
OMG Ferdy's smiley face....I can't handle the cute!!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on April 13, 2016, 04:35:38 PM
He's a very opinionated funny little bumpkin.  Things must be just so.  He will crawl up on my side or on my stomach and then use his paws and sometimes his teeth to pull my clothes away so he can get his cold paws on my nice warm skin.  Then I can feel him sigh and settle down LOL

OR I put my hand down flat on the bed while lying on my side when we go to bed, and he licks it over and over and tries to get all 4 feet on my hand, then settles down, sighs and sleeps all cuddled up.   :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: erbusbee on April 13, 2016, 06:25:25 PM
 :heart:  Heehee, he sounds like just my sort of rat.  Enjoy him!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on April 14, 2016, 11:17:43 AM
Eagan (almost 39 months old!) and Airi

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Apr%2012%2016%20Eagan%20and%20Airi.jpg)

And Pele being sweet :)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Apr%2012%2016%20Pele.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on April 14, 2016, 11:19:10 AM
That is simply adorable! :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on April 22, 2016, 07:16:14 AM
Pele made it to 3 weeks between trims and she and Teefs are going in together to get done today.  Pele's teeth are still crazy growing but this little lady lucked out immensely.  Her lower incisors are actually growing outside her mouth now, and don't grow or cut into her lips anymore. 

I got pics this morning to show you how insane it all looks...she hates this but forgave me afterwards when I told her "no more, gave her kisses and cuddles and got kisses back.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Apr%2022%2016%20Pele%20at%203%20weeks%20of%20tooth%20growth.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Apr%2022%2016%20Pele%20at%203%20weeks%20of%20tooth%20growth%202.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Apr%2022%2016%20Pele.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Deblee on April 22, 2016, 08:04:35 AM
She is so precious!! :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on April 22, 2016, 08:09:37 AM
Oh goodness!  I'm glad they're growing outside her mouth so that she can at least go longer between trims! 
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on May 03, 2016, 01:35:17 PM
How are Pele and the amazing multiplying rescue? Do you need supplies? We're down to our last two and we have... everything.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on June 01, 2016, 07:51:38 AM
Pele is great.  The every 3 week trim with Teefs going in at the same time is working out pretty well.  She's about 6 months now and weights 218 grams.  She's active and lean and loves to play...her way...shaking her head, batting at me with her front paws etc :D

HATES being picked up and held to look at her teeth, anything remotely like that and she struggles and makes silent "you are KILLING me" faces.

LOVES being held in my arms or in my lap and stroked, and cuddling, and licking me gently, and taking care of her oldies and me of course  :cheeky:

My beautiful little hamster-head  :heart: :heart:

Not liking her baytril (shes snuffly right now which always worries me)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jun%201%2016%20Pele%202.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jun%201%2016%20Pele.jpg)

Runrunrun

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jun%201%2016%20Pele%203.jpg)

Momma licks and forgiveness for the baytril :)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jun%201%2016%20Pele%204.jpg)

the rescue situation has settled down to a dull roar.  William the dad has 6 boys and adores them.  Siobhan, Iona, Gatsby the rat-mouse have 8 girls...and bedlam as only baby girls can cause.  Serious mom S is learning to play, and really adores hand-wrestling now :)  Gatsby the mouse had some identity issues once the babies grew up too much.  What is MY Purpose in Life beyond being a Nanny to tiny babies.  He seemed depressed and unhappy but I talked with Arlene and she talked to him, and he rebounded.  Now he sleeps with the rats but especially mom S and seems much happier :)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on June 05, 2016, 09:11:56 AM
WHEEEE Pele update!!! Nobody can be uncheered by a Pele pic.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on June 06, 2016, 09:40:10 AM
She is such a precious girl!  Her personality is written all over her!  :)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on June 20, 2016, 02:30:03 PM
Just a wee glimpse into Pele's caretaker life.

Here she is with the new rescue boy Emmett, who came in with a facial abscess, but then his big brother beat him up for his "off" behaviour a day later.  Yep, poor Emmett has PT and has now been paired with an elderly head waving manic girl...but Pele likes him too and will happily let him use her as a pillow most times...and sometimes she just stands on him. Poor confused Emmett.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Montreal%20Rats%20June%203%2016/Jun%2020%2016%20Emmet%20with%20Blue.jpg)

Pele in the background, lip flapping away :D

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Montreal%20Rats%20June%203%2016/Jun%2020%2016%20Emmet%20with%20Blue%20and%20Pele.jpg)



Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on June 20, 2016, 03:55:34 PM
 :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: MinervaThonosi on June 20, 2016, 03:56:41 PM
So much cute!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on June 21, 2016, 09:19:54 PM
Enquiring minds want to know--what is lip flapping?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on June 22, 2016, 01:14:02 PM
Enquiring minds want to know--what is lip flapping?

Hahaha some rats will roll their tongues and smack their gums together as their version of bruxxing.  Its a failing of mine, I get all *gooey*melty* when I see it.  I finally got one decent video of it years ago with Sage as a baby.  She lip flaps right at the end. :)  Pele does it most likely because her mouth feels funny from the damage done.  She may have never been a lip flapper normally, but she is now. :D

http://vid61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Sage%20and%20Dusty%20%20Oct%2016%2011/oct18Sagelipflapping-1.mp4
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on June 24, 2016, 09:52:43 AM
Some better pics of Pele, she was super playful last night :D

Looks like someone is going to need her hind talons trimmed tonight...she is NOT going to be happy :P

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jun%2023%2016%20Pele.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jun%2023%2016%20Pele%202.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jun%2023%2016%20Pele%203.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on June 24, 2016, 11:34:33 AM
We had a rattie who grew toenails at warp speed. Lava ledges, brick by water bottle, etc made no diff. When I clipped his toenails, he would painstakingly check them over and over, as if counting to see if I had amputated any toes.  ;D
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on August 17, 2016, 10:49:12 AM
OK time for more Pele pics...been so busy with other ratters, I kept forgetting to upload them off my camera LOL...can you believe she's 9 months old now???  :shocked2:

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Aug%2012%2016%20Pele%202.jpg)

Cheek Rubs

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/aug%207%2016%20Pele%20cheek%20rub.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/July%201%2016%20Pele.jpg)

Hanging out with some little babies who are leaving next week...they adored her!

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Aug%2010%20Pele%20and%20babies.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/aug%208%2016%20Pele%20with%20dumbo%20bareback%20girl.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on August 17, 2016, 10:29:24 PM
She is so precious!  I didn't realize how short her nose was!  She looks like a short-eared bunny!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: erbusbee on August 18, 2016, 02:15:26 PM
Did you spay her at some point?  How did she handle anaesthesia? 
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on August 18, 2016, 08:14:44 PM
No spay. My vet started disappearing on me so I didn't have (and stil don't have) a competent vet.  :puppy_dog_eyes:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on August 18, 2016, 08:17:58 PM
She is so precious!  I didn't realize how short her nose was!  She looks like a short-eared bunny!

A happy bunny-hamster-rat headed girl  :yelcutelaugh:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: erbusbee on August 19, 2016, 12:06:07 AM
So then how is she hanging with all those boys?!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on August 19, 2016, 04:58:41 PM
So then how is she hanging with all those boys?!

The babies are 4 weeks old, she's a tiny rat.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on August 20, 2016, 07:14:56 PM
I weighed Pele today and she's 235 grams and pretty much full grown. :)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: erbusbee on August 21, 2016, 12:56:32 AM
Oh wow, I thought my special needs guy Ebi was tiny!  He's just a smidge under 300, which I suppose is still small for a boy.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on August 21, 2016, 07:32:49 AM
He IS tiny!!!  Post your sweetie here? I'd love to see him :)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: erbusbee on August 24, 2016, 12:42:38 AM
He IS tiny!!!  Post your sweetie here? I'd love to see him :)

Let's see if these links work, if not I'll upload pics to a normal hosting site.  Here's Ebi in all of his ridiculous cuteness:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZgluIgWYAAYKf3.jpg:large)

Here he is with normal-sized Lord Fuzzington for comparison haha:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiruBUaUgAA1n8a.jpg:large)

He was a runt, then developed what the vet thinks was meningitis, then he had chronic joint abscesses until we finally nailed down a med combo that fought them off.  Poor little dude has had a rough time, but he turns a year in a few weeks, so he's definitely beat the odds.  Aside from fused elbows, he putters around fine and seems pretty normal, all 280 grams of him!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on August 24, 2016, 10:01:36 AM
Ewwwww what a tough little fellow!!!  Can I ask about the joint abscesses?  I have a nakie girl who was dumped outside with 28 other rats, she has ongoing internal abscesses. I am treating with baytril and metronidazole but wondered what needs worked for your lad?

I adore that pic with him and his normal sized nakie brother. :)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: erbusbee on August 24, 2016, 01:49:42 PM
Ewwwww what a tough little fellow!!!  Can I ask about the joint abscesses?  I have a nakie girl who was dumped outside with 28 other rats, she has ongoing internal abscesses. I am treating with baytril and metronidazole but wondered what needs worked for your lad?

I adore that pic with him and his normal sized nakie brother. :)

For him Orbax was the miracle drug.  He had them on his knees and elbows, apparently there is a human analogue according to my human physician friend.  Something to do with a failure of a particular enzyme to develop, the enzyme breaks down pus.  The humans with the disease have compromised immune systems and chronic medial joint abscesses like Ebi, and eventually die of resistant bacteria in their teens.  Sad stuff.

Also worth noting - I think he is recessive hairless rather than double rex, because there were no rexes in his litter and both parents looked to have normal coats.  This was from a BYB who had gotten overwhelmed and had a zillion babies that needed homes STAT.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on August 24, 2016, 03:39:20 PM
Can I PM you for more info?  Do you have any pics?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: erbusbee on August 24, 2016, 11:44:29 PM
Sure thing, they're on my phone so I can email them to you, I think it's pricey to text pics to Canada.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on October 08, 2016, 08:35:26 AM
Some early Saturday morning cuddle pics with my  :heart: Pele

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Occt%208%2016%20Pele.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Oct%208%2016%20Pele%203.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Oct%208%2016%20Pele%202.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: petunia on October 08, 2016, 09:19:47 AM
awwwwww she is such a sweetie
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on October 08, 2016, 11:40:51 AM
That shot with the tongue is hilariously adorable.  What a sweetheart!  I'm so glad you were able to pull her through and that she is thriving. :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Michael C on October 08, 2016, 03:09:46 PM
Thank you for continuing to update this thread.

Don't go telling this to any of my boys, but I think Pele is my favorite.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on October 10, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Thank you for continuing to update this thread.

Don't go telling this to any of my boys, but I think Pele is my favorite.

HAHA...Shhhh don't worry she's my favorite too ;)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on October 11, 2016, 01:44:05 PM
OMG in the tongue picture she looks like a Picachu!!!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on October 11, 2016, 10:07:49 PM
Even rarer than Pikachu, a Pelechu :yelcutelaugh:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: ILoveMyRatties on October 12, 2016, 09:22:10 PM
Even rarer than Pikachu, a Pelechu :yelcutelaugh:

I meant even CUTTER than a Pikachu, a Pelechu! Lol. Don't mind me, I'm just being weird, lol.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on October 21, 2016, 02:16:56 PM
we all LOVE weird..hahaha.

Btw baby girl is going to be 1 year old on Nov. 10th!!!  She will be an ADULT...  :shocked2:

a couple of pics for ya...

one of her eyes is off and on mucky from her skull deformation (is that a word?) but she'd also just woken up too :P

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Oct%2010%2016%20Pele.jpg)

and a comparison pic of baby girl growing up :)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2013%2015%20Pele.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Dec%2031%2015%20Pele%203.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%2018%2016%20Pele%202.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Oct%2010%2016%20Pele%202.jpg)



Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on October 22, 2016, 02:35:17 AM
Pele pics.   :heart:  Life is (temporarily) complete once more.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: petunia on October 23, 2016, 10:23:50 AM
 :love7:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on October 23, 2016, 03:05:00 PM
She's such a beautiful girl, despite the damage.  She is so lucky to have you--and vice versa!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Deblee on October 24, 2016, 08:52:41 AM
 :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on November 29, 2016, 10:39:52 AM
Pele is over a year old now...Photobucket has been a real cow lately and I haven't been able to upload pics until today (you end up in a permanent loop of logins when you hit Upload).  Someone figured out a temporary fix of uploading one by one through Editor...this is for anyone else having issues.

Pele always pushes under the blankets and loves to curl up on my feet, by my legs or on my tummy.  One day it was too warm for blankets so she decided to make do.  Thank the rat gods for oversized sleep pants. 

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Nov%2015%2016%20pele%20in%20a%20PJ%20pocket.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Nov%2015%2016%20pele%20in%20a%20PJ%20pocket.%202jpg.jpg)

Any my favorite pic of her sprawled out over my tummy  :heart:

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Nov%2027%2016%20Pele%20sprawled%20asleep%20on%20my%20tummy.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on November 29, 2016, 12:02:30 PM
 :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: MinervaThonosi on November 29, 2016, 04:43:41 PM
 :heart: Such a sweety~
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Post by: Kitsch Slapped on November 29, 2016, 04:57:09 PM
Precious  :heart: :BlueDumboBigEyes: :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marshall on November 30, 2016, 01:50:50 AM
She is so beautiful! It gets me in the feels to see how much she loves you! :heart: :heart: :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on November 30, 2016, 08:26:05 AM
She is such a doll.   :heart:
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Post by: ILoveMyRatties on November 30, 2016, 06:02:55 PM
Sweet sweet Pele❤️❤️❤️️❤️️
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on December 01, 2016, 10:21:30 AM
Last night I had to take in 2 orphan wees.  There was originally 5 "rescued" by a collector.  He and his wife already have lots of rats, but wanted to collect one of every color, pattern and coat type, so they rescued  5 babies from the feeder bin.  Baby 1 died by being killed by their adult biter female *duh*, baby 2 died (no clue but suspecting MC) and 3 babies were picked up by my friend on Nov. 29th.  The little notch capped female died during the day at my friends (to her sadness) and from her description it really sounded like MC. :( 

So I get the 2 wees home, a lovely safe blue hoodie girl I named Eirlys ("Ire-liss" which means Snowdrop in welsh) and the high white smaller boy I named Rhys ("Reese" meaning Enthusiasm).

Pele LOVES them!!  So you now get double the please today :)

Don't mind the teeny cage, my foster only had a carrier I had loaned her to keep them in...they don't seem to care.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Eirlys%20and%20Rhys%20Nov%2029%2016/Nov%2030%2016%20Pele.jpg)

Checking out the tiny baby box, her head filled the door LOL

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Eirlys%20and%20Rhys%20Nov%2029%2016/Dec%201%2016%20Pele%20in%20the%20babies%20box.jpg)

Swarmed by happy babies! 
Pele sandwich

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Eirlys%20and%20Rhys%20Nov%2029%2016/Dec%201%2016%20Pele%20and%20babies.jpg)

Where's Pele's head??

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Eirlys%20and%20Rhys%20Nov%2029%2016/Dec%201%2016%20Pele%20and%20babies%202.jpg)

Eirlys and Pele

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Eirlys%20and%20Rhys%20Nov%2029%2016/Dec%201%2016%20Eirlys%20and%20Pele%202.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Eirlys%20and%20Rhys%20Nov%2029%2016/Dec%201%2016%20Eirlys%20and%20Pele.jpg)

And the 2 wees together :)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Eirlys%20and%20Rhys%20Nov%2029%2016/Dec%201%2016%20Rhys%20and%20Eirlys.jpg)

Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on December 01, 2016, 11:56:20 AM
 :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on December 02, 2016, 07:57:57 AM
Awww, such sweet pictures of all three!!  Pele will make a wonderful big 'sister'.   :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on December 03, 2016, 09:59:11 AM
Just. Friggen. Thud. Already.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on December 28, 2016, 09:06:11 PM
Pele fans need PICS!!!!

(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r529/judimain/pele_zpsaxmb1oad.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: MinervaThonosi on December 28, 2016, 11:45:03 PM
Yes! More pics!  :hyper:
Title: Re: Pele--scared
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on March 06, 2017, 11:25:40 AM
R you OK? Is Pele OK?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 09, 2017, 06:50:56 PM
We are both OK. :)

My office moved in November and it's been an ongoing nightmare between that and helping accounting set up their new accounting program (the woman is practically computer illiterate), and then 2017 has been one illness after another...So no energy for pics and posting. Lol

I'll see if I have some pics I can post though.... *Cue cheesy hold music*
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 09, 2017, 06:57:25 PM
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Jan%2027%2017%20Pele%20on%20the%20move.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/jan%2027%2017%20Cuddley%20Pee.jpg)

Stealing coffee  ::)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Feb%207%2017%20Pele%20with%20my%20coffee.jpg)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marshall on March 09, 2017, 09:50:40 PM
Yay! Glad you both are doing good, thank you for the update!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: petunia on March 10, 2017, 07:20:03 AM
sorry work has been so stressful, and then illness on top of that, ugh!!
please take good care of yourself!

Pele looks wonderful <3
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on March 10, 2017, 03:51:28 PM
 :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on March 11, 2017, 07:45:00 PM
She's been very sleepy, sprawly and cuddly tonight <3 i got some pics on my cell :)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/IMG_20170311_193630936_BURST000_COVER.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/rattiluv/media/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/IMG_20170311_193630936_BURST000_COVER.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on March 12, 2017, 04:35:11 AM
She's been very sleepy, sprawly and cuddly tonight <3 i got some pics on my cell :)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/IMG_20170311_193630936_BURST000_COVER.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/rattiluv/media/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/IMG_20170311_193630936_BURST000_COVER.jpg.html)

<3 Love, love, LOVE so Pele!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on March 13, 2017, 10:02:34 AM
Sorry it has been so rough, but SO relieved you and Pele are OK. Love her big eyes and hamster head.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on March 13, 2017, 06:25:08 PM
Just . . . THUD . . . already!

Good to see some pics, Shelagh, hope you can get well and get that office sorted out quickly,  (I used to do technical support--the stories that could be told!)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on November 07, 2017, 03:55:06 PM
How's Pele?
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on November 10, 2017, 08:21:20 PM
lovely cuddly sweet Pele is 2 years old today...it's amazing and also very sad for me. Our time will be finite and I try desperately not to think of that at all. Right now she's sleeping on top of my leg and kneading her paws on me lol. My heart is full and we enjoy every day. <3

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Aug%202017%20Pele%203.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Aug%202017%20Pele.jpg)


Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: MinervaThonosi on November 11, 2017, 02:26:38 AM
I love her little face~ :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: gramma2jaakk on November 11, 2017, 09:51:50 AM
She is so sweet!

Happy Birthday to Pele!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: purple rat on November 13, 2017, 08:01:29 AM
Happy birthday sweet little Pele! :balloon:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on November 14, 2017, 12:42:03 AM
So, so glad you guys found each other! I love that she kneads paws like a kitten!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: BigBen on November 16, 2017, 11:11:16 AM
Oh, that tongue!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lilspaz68 on December 15, 2017, 09:55:54 AM
Pele at 25 months has some health issues but we are ready for the fight now.  We had a lovely cuddly night last night and are all ready to start trying to help some of them.

When its time to go to bed, I often pick up Pele, turn on my side, then put my hand flat on the bed with my fingers curled up.  Pele will often groom, lick me as I rub her with my fingers, but will finally shift so all 4 of her feet are on my hand, settle down and we sleep.  I finally caught this on my cell phone.   :heart:

A bit of grooming to start

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Pele%205%20Dec%2015%2017.jpg~original)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Pele%204%20Dec%2015%2017.jpg~original)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Pele%201%20Dec%2015%2017.jpg~original)

An oops pic where I zoomed in somehow one-handed LOL

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Pele%202%20Dec%2015%2017.jpg~original)

a bit of rearranging

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Pele%207%20Dec%2015%2017.jpg~original)
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Pele%206%20Dec%2015%2017.jpg~original)

Then she and I settle in  :heart:  Zzzzzzzz

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/Unnamed%20Rats/Miracle%20and%20Co%20Nov%2011%2015/Pele%20FB%20avatar.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Marybelle on December 15, 2017, 02:27:41 PM
Such a sweet old lady she is now!  I hope she has plenty more time with you!
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: lularat on December 19, 2017, 04:46:17 PM
Such a sweetie....I really miss having fuzz butts. I come here occasionally and get my rattie fix, but not like the real thing. Hope everything is going well with you.
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: purple rat on December 23, 2017, 12:18:54 PM
those pictures just make my heart melt! :heart:
Title: Re: Meet Pele My Brave Baby Girl
Post by: Been to the Mountaintop on December 23, 2017, 05:54:32 PM
Me, too.