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Offline rbr

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Re: crossbreeds?
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2006, 08:43:12 AM »
I don't appreciate your attitude, and superiority.  When I signed up on this web site, I didn't think it would have rude posters. 

What makes a Cavalier and Poodle any different then an Ocherese.  I guess a mutt is a mutt.  By the way how is your mutt.
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Re: crossbreeds?
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2006, 08:49:21 AM »
I am sorry to say but I agree with ~Lin.

It is not a superiority thing, unless you are talking about calling a mutt a breed a superiority thing.   :cheeky:

I have to say that I am always shocked by the attitude of people with the newest mixed breed designer mutt when I have to ask them 'what breed is he' at obedience classes.  They act like I have insulted them by not knowing I am looking at the cross be a poodle and some other furry creature.
The irony of this is, most of these same people would be insulted if it was suggested they adopt the cocker spaniel and poodle mix at the shelter, because it is a mutt, but if we call it a cock-a-poo is a great dog.

I personally do not see Mutt as a negative term.  I have three purebred mutts (none have papers, they are all purebreds though, two we know for sure and one there is little doubt).  All are shelter dogs.  I did not pay someone way too much money for a mutt.

I am glad you like your dog.  That is all that really matters, honestly.  But, you can not blame those of us who prefer breeds be bred to better the breed not to make designer mutts for feeling that way.  I personally see way too many mutts PTS to think making more is a good idea.

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Re: crossbreeds?
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2006, 08:50:23 AM »
I have a German Shepherd from Magnificent Mutts Rescue located in Elmhurst IL, and Tessa is doing wonderful. Best dog anyone could ever ask for, I can't imagine why anyone would give her up (and she was given up twice).

Its not superiority, my point is theres nothing that makes a purpose bred mutt any better than a shelter mutt. A dog is a dog, and when there is so much overpopulation already mixes should not be bred. Purebreds, were bred for purposes. Since I have a german shepherd, I will use them as an example. The GSD was originaly bred as a herding dog. Its a working breed, and is continued to be bred as a working breed (by reputable breeders) to be ready for work as service dogs, police dogs, rescue dogs, and herding dogs. The work that the dog will be doing is always on the mind of the breeder. They chose a female and male that will compliment each other the most, and breed for temperment, health, etc. They are breeding to better the breed, to make the dogs healthier and better suited for their jobs. Taking two purebreds and breeding them together just because the puppies are cute, or are mixed with poodle and may possibly not shed, etc is irresponsible. Its adding to the overpopulation problem. Theres nothing that makes your mutts any better than the mutts in a shelter dying because these people continue to breed crosses for no reason other than whats in style.

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Re: crossbreeds?
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2006, 09:00:49 AM »
You know, I have a shelter dog, a poodle that we have had for 13 years.  He was found in the middle of a street, weighing 5 lbs and smelling of alcohol.  Later the previous owners where found and confessed of giving him alcohol for water.  Also, volunteer at the shelter. 

Yes, I have two mutts and love them very much.  I didn't pay hundreds of dollars for them, they are no different than the ones that people pay $800 Plus for.  They give me and the family joy and that  is what it is all about.

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Re: crossbreeds?
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2007, 10:53:16 PM »
all dogs were mutts at one point or another.

but yeah I don't really agree with designer breeds because a lot of them are just backyard breeders and not really breeding for the betterment of any dog. Just to make a buck.

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Re: crossbreeds?
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2007, 02:25:19 AM »
The designer "breeds" themselves are not necessarily bad dogs.

I have dealt with many of these "breeders" though and it's sad. I'm a groomer and I also groom in Scottsdale, Arizona (the world of snotty nasty rich people). I have talked to these people, they have a schnauzer who has diabetes but no worries they're breeding him to a poodle bitch for Schnoodles!! Then they can have a new puppy (who will carry diabetes), and they make a ton of money while they're at it for studding!! Trust me, it's not just her that does it, many of the "breeders" I deal with are of the same mind, even the purebreed "breeders".

I, personally, wouldn't trust the "breeder" of a hybrid.

As just a note, you run the risk of diseases/poor temperments/etc with ANY dog and moreso with mixed breeds (ie mutts). Might as well save a dog's life while you're at it? That's what I would do.

I groom a cocker spaniel named Daphne, she was rescued from a local mill. At 7 months old, and she had already been bred once to a poodle, for the coveted cockapoo pups. *sigh* She's very nervy even still.

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Re: crossbreeds?
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2007, 03:59:11 AM »
No dog is a bad dog. People make dogs bad. Any dog can be a good dog if it is treated right..

People make me not like the designer breeds because of their irresponsible breeding just to make money or have those cute pups. And the dogs suffer.

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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2007, 04:11:40 PM »
My favorite crossbreed is Husky x German Shepard... they are very beautiful and the German Shepard seems to calm down the Husky need to run away and escape.
They are awfully big diggers though.
I have two female rats, Jasmine a black and white, and Rose an albino.
I have two male cats, Hector a black and white,Pan and a grey tabby.
I also have to male bettas, Morpheus and Amenhotep.

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« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2007, 12:58:38 PM »
Designer dogs frighten me.  It seems they are bred for looks only, and no breeder I have spoken with can attest to the health/temperament of the parental lines.  With many varieties, we don't know what the long-term health effects of breeding and over-breeding (which eventually seems to happen) will be.

We have an Aussie/Akita mix who was a roadside "free puppy."  She is amazing and has been the fuzzy part of my heart of 8 years now.  Granted, she has health problems (the people giving the pups away were very proud to tell us that both parents were "pure-bred"), but she is amazing.

We also have a 10mo GSD.  We got her through luck and being in the right place at the right time.  She was the runt of a litter of about 12 and the only one the breeder hadn't yet sold.  She seemed unsure of what she was going to do with her, to the point it made us nervous.  We took her home, at $400 instead of the $800-1200 that her sibs were going for.  She is a beautiful black & tan sable whose grandparents live in Germany and carry multiple titles.  Unfortunately, her parents were imported for breeding only.  Both lines have fantastic temperament and energy, and it would have been a real crime if Maia had ended up at the shelter or as someone's backyard breeder because she wasn't, to her breeder, as good as her sibs.  (Maia was, I will note, spayed just prior to 6mo.)

In the past I have had a Beagle/Dalmation (a backyard accident) from the Humane Society, an Aussie/Blue Heeler (another accident and "free puppy"), and grew up with a Pekinese/Dachshund from the Animal Shelter.  All were amazing dogs and I would not have traded them for any dog with a stack of paperwork, even at gunpoint.

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Re: crossbreeds?
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2007, 03:40:32 PM »
I thought of this thread the other day when I was at the humane society.....
There were THREE golden doodles up for adoption, one was 'too big', the other two had too much energy.