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Live Foods?
« on: January 10, 2009, 11:55:00 AM »
Does anyone feed their rats live foods such as Megaworms, Mealworms or Crickets?
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Re: Live Foods?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2009, 12:38:00 PM »
I haven't, personally, but I know people who have. Just make sure it's a treat because they are high in protein for a rat.

MY SO keeps Tarantulas and feeds them crickets, I should bring one home for Nibs. lol
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2009, 12:46:31 PM »
I've done mealworms before, its so gross. Crickets I won't because I don't want them getting loose.

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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2009, 12:48:22 PM »
I don't have problems with live food. I've even bred Roaches as feeders, so it's not gross to me, I just wanted to know about people's experiences. I'll probably pick up some Megaworms when i have a cash-flow, as it is a treat and not a staple. If I was still buying crickets for my gecko, or if I still had my scorpion, I'd probably give them crickets.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2009, 12:56:31 PM »
I used to have hissing cockroaches for pets. I think I'd pass out in disgust at the sound that would make. 18 rats chewing on squishy roach innards while I'm standing in the middle of their cages. Its not like a reptile that just snaps it up in one bite.  :icon_puke_r:

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2009, 01:54:58 PM »
LOL! My boyfriend has given Megaworms to his guys before and they love them, fighting over them and tearing them apart. Such sport!
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2009, 01:56:58 PM »
I used to have hissing cockroaches for pets. I think I'd pass out in disgust at the sound that would make. 18 rats chewing on squishy roach innards while I'm standing in the middle of their cages. Its not like a reptile that just snaps it up in one bite.  :icon_puke_r:


Hehe... it is QUITE the sound ;) Amazing how their little hunter instincts switch on in an instant.

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Re: Live Foods?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2009, 02:47:53 PM »
I never thought of feeding my rats bugs.  My ratties are so sweet and cuddly I can't imagine them munching on a nasty bug, eww.  But they really do like it huh?  If so I guess I could see about getting them one once in awhile although my son just said NO not for his ratties lol.  When we had firebelly toads we'd feed them crickets but for the most part they'd eat them in one gulp.

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Re: Live Foods?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2009, 03:26:52 PM »
Yeah, they love them, and from what I've read, they're good for them in moderation.
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2009, 03:41:35 PM »
My boyfriend has a hedgehog who eats freeze dried meal worms and crickets, and I give them to my rats as a treat sometimes. They love them! And I find freeze dried a lot more appealing an idea than live bugs, but even they took a bit of getting used to.
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2009, 03:48:26 PM »
My girls love mealworms. But I can't stomach watching them eat them. They move and squirm while being eaten  :icon_puke_r: I put them in a bowl in the cage and leave the room.

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 03:50:12 PM »
Personally I think the dried ones are a much better option. I bet the rats like live ones better, but watching them eat live bugs would just be awful.

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 04:18:04 PM »
My rats were afraid of crickets, but they love mealworms. They bite the heads off first, so it is very quick.  :confused:
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 05:09:22 PM »
I've done mealworms before, its so gross. Crickets I won't because I don't want them getting loose.

I haven't tried feeding my ratties anything live yet, but I have to leopard geckos that eat crickets and other bugs.   Crickets get loose from time to time, but it keeps the cat happily entertained!

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2009, 11:43:21 PM »
I've done mealworms before, its so gross. Crickets I won't because I don't want them getting loose.
Ya if they don't catch the crickets in time they'd jump right through the cage bars
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2009, 12:28:42 AM »
I didn't think of freeze dried. I'm trying to fatten my rats up. I can get a bag of 2000 freeze dried mealworms at the garden supply store for $10. I know that's too many but the outside birds could use some too by this time of winter. You can also get a can of 500 live for the same price.

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Re: Live Foods?
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2009, 10:19:48 AM »
I've tried giving Elliott mealworms, he'll take one out of my hand after shoving it in his face a few times, bite down once or twice, then drop it and walk away...  ::)

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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2009, 10:36:39 AM »
My SO has given our passed ratties mealies before. He also gives our mice mealies and bugs from time to time. They enjoy it. :) But I am anti-bug so I wont touch it, LOL.
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Re: Live Foods?
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2009, 10:45:01 AM »
I have a tub full of random freeze dried bugs and seafood for my crabs. It's come across my mind to let my rats give it a try, but I've never actually done it yet. I have a hard enough time touching the freeze dried fish/shrimp/worms/random dead bugs that I order to actually watch my rats crunch down of them... *shivers*

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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2009, 02:00:17 PM »
I've done mealworms before, its so gross. Crickets I won't because I don't want them getting loose.
Ya if they don't catch the crickets in time they'd jump right through the cage bars

What about feeding it off a tweezers? My Nibs grabs anything I give him like that, might be easier so they don't get away?
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Re: Live Foods?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2009, 02:01:56 PM »
I have feeding tongs from when I had a scorpion, and I feed them with that. not because I have a problem touching worms, but because I have a problem being bitten :P
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2009, 05:29:35 PM »
I find it a bit ironic that live feedings of other sorts are frowned upon but these are not. What about the poor bugs getting eaten alive? It makes me sad because I love crickets! I think they are the coolest bugs ever!

I mean, worms, not so much. But squirming while being eaten?  :icon_puke_r:  And sad.....
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Re: Live Foods?
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2009, 05:30:55 PM »
I find it a bit ironic that live feedings of other sorts are frowned upon but these are not. What about the poor bugs getting eaten alive? It makes me sad because I love crickets! I think they are the coolest bugs ever!

I mean, worms, not so much. But squirming while being eaten?  :icon_puke_r:  And sad.....

I feel the same way, but it does have to happen. You can feed snakes f/t, but some animals won't eat p/k insects... it has to be live and moving or they won't touch it. I don't think that I could feed any living creature to another living creature, personally.

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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2009, 05:36:23 PM »
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It's only sad for me to feed insects or worms when I give them a name first. I give my rats the occasional cricket/superworm/even hissing cockroach, and it's amazing how their instincts set in. It's a form of enrichment for my rats, and they love it - though they only get insects every once in a while since they are very high in protein (though are a healthier protein than something like beef/chicken/ham.

I find it a bit ironic that live feedings of other sorts are frowned upon but these are not. What about the poor bugs getting eaten alive? It makes me sad because I love crickets! I think they are the coolest bugs ever!

I mean, worms, not so much. But squirming while being eaten?  :icon_puke_r:  And sad.....

The reason it's frowned upon for other animals is 1) mammals do feel pain, and have fear and 2) because mammals can also cause serious damage back to the predator (it's a lose-lose situation, no matter which way it goes).

Insects/bugs are neat, and I like a whole lot of them (getting a Bumblebee Millipede soon, and just recently had a Rosehair Tarantula), but they don't feel pain or fear like a mammal/bird/reptile would.

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Re: Live Foods?
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2009, 07:02:30 PM »
Ew, if I fed my rats bugs or worms, I would not be kissing them as much. Or at all. Bug breath!!!