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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #75 on: September 29, 2011, 08:17:06 PM »
Would the Kaytee Soft Granule bedding work as well? I can get the Kaytee easily, but to get the Sun Seed I need to make a special trip to Petsmart. I have never used Sun Seed, so I don't know how it compares to the Soft Granule in texture, etc (I stopped using the granules because they just tossed it EVERYWHERE - worse than aspen!).

Hmmm. It's very light weight, and isn't scented (I think?), so I imagine it would be okay.
This big thing you want to look out for is that is isn't dehydrating the babies skin. Apparently YN has a habit of doing that.

Sunseed is a heavier, pelleted bedding made out of recycled magazines.

There are two kinds, scented and unscented, so I would get the unscented kind. Yes, it's very light - good to know about the dehydration factor. That would never have occurred to me! Thanks!

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #76 on: September 30, 2011, 09:29:59 AM »
Well, my vet saw both alien & the creepy skull, but she doesn't think she's pregnant, or if she is, not very far along. We both came to the conclusion that if she has another x-ray that basically shows a great white mass in her abdomen, but still appears healthy, that would probably mean she's a couple days off birth. Mind you, this is going off my Shiraz's day-before-birth x-ray.

I swear that alien winked at me though >_O
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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #77 on: September 30, 2011, 08:57:49 PM »
Just got back from the vet with Cooper. She's gained 30 more grams in only two days (so in the last 7 days, she's gained 70 or 80 grams total, which is really a lot). 

My vet looked at the x-ray the other vet took and, after he increased the contrast a bit, he said he might be able to see fetuses in there, but it's so hard to tell with rats. I'll show you what he pointed out though.

Increased contrast of x-ray (taken on Wednesday):



?? ??:



If those are little fetuses, she's less far along than I thought, but still pretty close (like maybe 3-5 days away from delivery). We discussed an e-spay, but my vet said he thinks an e-spay would be much more risky than letting her have them (if there is a "them" in there).

He also said it could be a false pregnancy (he's seen that a couple times before), but he didn't think it was a pyo, which is good since that was my worst fear with this.

I feel a little less panicked now that he's looked at her and we're pretty sure it isn't a pyo.
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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #78 on: September 30, 2011, 09:04:22 PM »
Thank goodness it's not pyo! That's such bad stuff. Of course, now you may be dealing with an unexpected handful of furbabies, but at least she's not sick.

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #79 on: September 30, 2011, 09:06:30 PM »
I hope its a false pregnancy. If she is pregnant I hope everything goes well, if not you will be well planned for it. So sorry all of this has happened, the lady who owned these rats before was so stupid.

Good thoughts and wishes coming your way  :heart:

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #80 on: September 30, 2011, 09:16:50 PM »
Wishing you all the best. As you can see in my own post, my rescued Petco "back room special" was very special, indeed! And now I have 10 extra eepers to worry about!

Pet's name: Gerald

My current rats: George, Pumpkin, Alfie, Valentino, Franky, Buddy, Olivia, and Dash

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #81 on: September 30, 2011, 10:51:03 PM »
That's interesting. That was what I thought could be intestine. All of it together kinda looks like a fetus to me, but individually... ???  lol... I'm glad it's not a pyo! I hope everything goes well! I've been lurking your blog thread and Cooper seems like a sweet girl! :heart: I'm glad you found each other!  :BlueDumboSmile:

Again, this is one of my posts where I'm too tired and need to go to bed, so sorry for typos, etc...

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #82 on: September 30, 2011, 10:58:53 PM »
Out of curiosity, I googled images of pregnant ratties... Sadly there were lots of images of dissected pregnant ratties. But what I saw in those dissections and did not expect was how the rittens are lined up in the abdomen, like a fat large intestine, larger than would be seen in a rat. So I could buy it that those little lumps all in a row are babies!

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #83 on: October 01, 2011, 01:23:03 AM »
Cooper is definitely carrying Cthulhu..  :shocked2:


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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #84 on: October 01, 2011, 03:05:03 AM »
Congrats, it's a Cthulhu.  Lol.

30g in two days really is much more than normal weight gain from good food, so your vet is probably right that those are babies.   Although here's hoping for the chance of a false pregnancy.  One can hope!   

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #85 on: October 01, 2011, 08:02:21 AM »
She is close it sounds like to me :)

I never understood the uterus of a rat until my vet took a pic of one after an e-spay.

DO NOT click on the link if you are squeamish or sensitive about e-spays

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/rattiluv/medical/Spays%20and%20Neuters/uteruswipupsjun1710.jpg

Now I understand why bigger litters are smaller, and how the runts (on the ends most likely) come out looking a bit squished.

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #86 on: October 01, 2011, 09:10:28 AM »
You guys and your creativity. I would have never thought that looked like Cthulhu.   :laughing7:

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #87 on: October 01, 2011, 09:32:05 AM »
 :yelcutelaugh: :yelcutelaugh: :yelcutelaugh: :yelcutelaugh: :yelcutelaugh:

I had never heard of a Cthulhu before this thread! Bananana, what are you breeding over there?   :eek:

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #88 on: October 01, 2011, 11:02:12 AM »
Ha! Your little :| face next to babies?? made me smile! I wouldnt have guessed those little bubbles down the bottom would be babies either. What did he say those ovals were up at her back that everyone keeps thinking are babies? Did he say?

And hooray for no pyometra! (and I cant wait to see baby pictures!)
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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #89 on: October 01, 2011, 11:27:15 AM »
Oh wow Lilspaz is that the actual size of the uterus? I'm baffled at how something so small can have something that big inside of them  :eek:

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #90 on: October 01, 2011, 11:46:39 AM »
Ceopet, the uterus is normally very small (the horns are long, but small.)  They stretch with pregnancy, like with humans.  Non pregnant women have uteruses about 3x2 inches.  A women close to giving birth has a uterus with 1,000 times the volume of a non pregnant uterus.

I see the babies, and your vets analysis makes sense, but I'm crossing my fingers for a false labor.

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #91 on: October 01, 2011, 11:51:05 AM »
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Ceopet, the uterus is normally very small (the horns are long, but small.)  They stretch with pregnancy, like with humans.  Non pregnant women have uteruses about 3x2 inches.  A women close to giving birth has a uterus with 1,000 times the volume of a non pregnant uterus.

That Makes sense, It's just really hard to picture that being inside of something it just make me go  :eek:

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #92 on: October 01, 2011, 01:02:56 PM »
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Ceopet, the uterus is normally very small (the horns are long, but small.)  They stretch with pregnancy, like with humans.  Non pregnant women have uteruses about 3x2 inches.  A women close to giving birth has a uterus with 1,000 times the volume of a non pregnant uterus.

That Makes sense, It's just really hard to picture that being inside of something it just make me go  :eek:

I felt the same way!

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #93 on: October 01, 2011, 02:00:11 PM »
Thanks for that picture lilspaz! I had seen a few pictures of what a pregnant rat uterus looks like, but I think the one you posted is a better example than the ones I was able to find. 

And holy crap, you guys - there is now no doubt in my mind that this rat is carrying Cthulu. And possibly also some jelly beans.  But definitely Cthulu.   

What did he say those ovals were up at her back that everyone keeps thinking are babies? Did he say?

It was pretty much what I was thinking - the top one is probably just the boundary of the peritoneal cavity, the one on her rump is either a muscle or some fat tissue and the one under her leg is just an artifact because the x-ray is so crappy.  He said he saw some gas bubbles in there in the middle (that's what the darker areas are), but he said it wasn't abnormal or anything. 

In other news, Cooper was so naughty last night!  We let her out on the couch for playtime and snacks (hard boiled egg, chicken baby food and blueberries) and she was doing everything within her power to cause trouble.  She tore up the couch, chewed up a blanket, climbed onto the window sill and tried to chew out the screen, became completely fixated on getting inside an empty tortilla chips bag (even though she had her own buffet of snacks right in front of her), and when we moved the tortilla chip bag off the couch, she very nearly escaped onto the floor trying to get to it again.  She was so pleased with herself - whenever she'd do something naughty, she'd popcorn (well, as much as a heavy rat can) across the couch and back afterward.  She even hand-wrestled with me a little.  She's such a goofball.
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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #94 on: October 01, 2011, 10:30:16 PM »
I just took some new belly pics while Cooper and her friends were out running around on the couch:





If looking pregnant was an olympic sport, Cooper would win a medal for sure.



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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #95 on: October 01, 2011, 10:31:18 PM »
Wow. That poor, poor creature.

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #96 on: October 01, 2011, 10:34:19 PM »
Wow. That poor, poor creature.

I feel so bad for her!  She can barely pull herself around anymore.  I mean, she has to be getting pretty close, right? She can't possibly get any bigger...  :eek:

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #97 on: October 01, 2011, 10:36:08 PM »
poor thing looks like a football with legs!

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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #98 on: October 01, 2011, 10:46:21 PM »
poor thing looks like a football with legs!

Or a less purple version of Grimace:







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Re: Possible pregnancy in rescued lady rat - need opinions
« Reply #99 on: October 01, 2011, 11:05:02 PM »
She is light bulb shaped.. Did she eat a light bulb? lol