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Offline MuttLover

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Questions about housing Mice
« on: January 13, 2012, 05:52:56 PM »
Hi there,

I have a 'retired' rabbit/rat sized cage and I would like to modify it to house mice in the future.

The base (bottom tray) is 40"x20" and 6" deep.  I would like to build a top (the cage part) with an opening lid out of 1/2" galvanized wire mesh.
I've used it for rats in the past, it looks like this:



When built, the cage would be 40" long,  20" wide and 12" high.
 I put that into to different "mouse cage calculators" one of which said it would fit 12, the other said 22!  :eek:
Is it just me or is that highly inaccurate? Picturing 22 mice in a cage that size is disgusting!

I was thinking three females would be happy in there. What do you all think?

Any other input would be great. Thanks!

Offline della luna

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Re: Questions about housing Mice
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 09:54:31 PM »
Are you saying that you are just going to use the base pan from the old cage and build the entire cage body out of the galvanized wire?

You will find that a lot of people will say you can put a whole bunch of mice in a cage that size.  I wouldn't be surprised is someone recommended up to 10 mice.  Personally, I, like you, prefer to err on the large side for cages.  I think that 3-4 females would be perfect.  I have a cage with roughly the same floorspace but that is 36" tall, and am currently housing a single buck (mouse) in there, and it doesn't seem excessive at all (too me, at least lol!).

I doubt you will have any problems with the bar spacing- the only chance would be if you have very small, young does.  My cage has slightly smaller spacing than 1/2" x 1/2", but not by much, and I have never had an escape.

I am unsure about how much you are really going to want that flip-top lid.  It can be hard to catch mice from a side door when they are still new and skittish, but they should warm up to you eventually (I recommend making a habit of giving them treats through the bars).  When I used a tank for my first three girls (worst idea ever, btw), I obviously had to reach in from the top and they were always terrified when I went to catch them.  When I switched them to the cage, the change in their behavior was quickly apparent- they were much more willing to interact with a hand coming at them sideways than the previously looming-overhead-hand-of-doom.

Also, the plain galvanized wire might not hold up for long.  It can get nasty and stinky pretty fast when there is pee all over it.  I'm pretty sure that there is some type of spray you can buy at a hardware store to do an at-home powder coating, which will protect the wire from all the nastiness.
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Offline misbips

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Re: Questions about housing Mice
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 09:06:49 PM »
Hi!  I ordered my mouse cages from Martins, I had them make special ones for me based on their collapsible carrier with 1/2" x 1/2" wire.   (this album is set to public and you don't have to have fb to see the pics) https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.342234669129135.87170.100000278142859&type=1&l=c4f6955da2  I didn't get powder coated because I didn't have time and these cages may not always be used for mice and I find that hammies tend to chew more, at least half of the ones that have come through here. :(

Please note the cages aren't furnished beyond the wheels as I was taking pictures to show the homemade stands I made so the wheels would be facing out on the back "wall."  They do have more stuff put in their cages. :D

I've only ever had adult mice and they've been too big to fit through the holes and the aquariums are often too heavy for me to carry.   I did have mice escape from that critter trail garbage through those bars and ended up putting 1/2" x 1/2" mesh on those.  LOL

Just another option. :D

Offline MuttLover

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Re: Questions about housing Mice
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 01:31:53 PM »
Thank you both very much for the input! :)

Funny that you would mention a Martin's misbips, cause I actually just had a friend offer me one for free.
My only concern is the 1 X 1/2 inch bar spacing, I may have to let them "beef up" in an aquarium before moving them to a cage.

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Re: Questions about housing Mice
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 11:20:18 PM »
I wanted to post this in case people looked at this later and wanted to order the cage from Martins.  They asked that people order them:

CC-2414 – Modified – 24 x 14 x 14, 1/2” x 1/2”, flip-top lid, front door with 2 latches, collapsible carrier

You can view http://www.martinscages.com/products/cages/travel/

I imagine you could get any dimension they have pans for but this one worked for me.  Be sure that you order any with 2 door latches because it tends to gape a bit.

Kimber

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Re: Questions about housing Mice
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 11:28:58 PM »
Thanks everyone!

I ended up getting a cage that is 24" x 14" x 24" from my mom, it's perfect but the bars are spaced 1/2" so I think I will need to cover it in hardwire mesh anyways...

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Re: Questions about housing Mice
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 05:48:52 PM »
I posted about these cages on my blog if you wanted to see a picture of it.

http://www.verminvillage.blogspot.com/2012/07/special-mouse-cages.html

I also made special stands out of 2" x 1/2" wire to accommodate the Silent Spinners.


I wanted to post this in case people looked at this later and wanted to order the cage from Martins.  They asked that people order them:

CC-2414 – Modified – 24 x 14 x 14, 1/2” x 1/2”, flip-top lid, front door with 2 latches, collapsible carrier

You can view http://www.martinscages.com/products/cages/travel/

I imagine you could get any dimension they have pans for but this one worked for me.  Be sure that you order any with 2 door latches because it tends to gape a bit.

Kimber